Posted on 11/21/2001 1:05:04 PM PST by shuckmaster
The laws of economics, by the way, are much affected by such things as tariffs...however in the world of "free trade" such measures are considered anathema.
Have you ever heard of Waco? And J. Reno? The feds messed big time with Texas and Texans lost, and so did the rest of America. Yet there was hardly a noticeable complaint.
As for families with lost jobs due to JD closing, first of all somewhere around 50 - 70% of those working there were probably temps. Secondly, as I stated in a previous post, JD closed it's Gastonia plant and shipped it to Mexico. 1200 jobs were lost there to 'free trade' (supported by Clinton and RINO's}. Of those 1200, probably 600-700 were 'permanent' employees, the rest were temps. Do you have any sympathy for those families? The Battle Flag Pickets had nothing to do with that fiasco, the people with the PC mentality did.
IMO, PC'ers don't know how to make anything run successfully. They don't know how to run schools, businesses, etc. They need to have the light of truth shined on them. They need to be opposed. And we sure don't need spineless politicians who won't stand up to them.
Last time I checked, Hong Kong was a part of Communist China. PC John Deere + Red China = Birds of the same feather. This means we'll have communist Chinese snooping around the Greer, SC area (only large asset in USA which was sold to TechTronics).
Not only do PC'ers not know how to make things work, when they fail, they sell out to their friends. My quess is this deal will involve the taxpayers subsidizing the new owners in part, corporate welfare.
You got that right! Least of which is the PHD idiots who decided to compete against their own dealers by selling equipment over the internet. Directly competing against their own dealers, now that builds loyalty and dealer sales. /sarcasm. Idiots.
They also so tightly control their dealers that the dealers are scared to death to bring in great 3rd party consumer name brands, which would nicely augment their existing lines without competing directly against the green label.
Some do it anyway but Deere hates it. The dealers should form a buying group and buy outside Deere just for s&g's.
You would have fit in very nicely with your opinion in the 1917 crowd. Perhaps you have time to review their record over the last many years.
Now most of the union members who helped drive the copper mining concerns out of the state are on welfare or working at McDonalds or Walmart.
Not as well able to care for their families now as when the oppressive mining companies were paying them around $20 an hour but they certainly had their victory.
This is the kind of victory usually orchestrated by DimocRat activists. Who after they have destroyed the local job market pack up and go back home to their inherited incomes or cushy government jobs.
It is morons like these town people who are manipulated by them that give all of us on the low end of the economic ladder a mostly unwarranted reputation for being hopelessly stupid.
And I, as a consumer, have every right to do every thing in my power to drive you out of business. Employers are now drug police, political-correctness police, health police, etc. and the american worker has let this happen. Employers have us by the balls because they know we'll buy all that foreign crap they build overseas.
It's time we start buying american and let the employers know that the only thing we want them to concentrate on is the product they sell. Tell them to leave the fascism to the gov't.
Some of you people condemn those workers for not giving in to PC at the cost of their jobs. I admire them for standing up for their beliefs at the cost of their paychecks. Their ancestors would be proud.
God Bless those Southern Men (and screw that assembler of japanese and chinese products, wang deere)!
John Deere has always struck me as a solid American company. I'm surprised they would succumb to PC pressure and fire these two guys. If this is the whole story, then that plant SHOULD be shut down. I suspect a lot of innocent folks are going to be out of jobs, though.
Think!
Imagine the consequences of a protest led by the NAACP and Jesse Jackson Shakedown Society accusing JD of being racist; tolerating "racist employee actions against African Americans".
Today's corporations have a choice: either adopt some PC practices, or face the music from a litany of "rights" groups ready to embark on a seek and destroy mission.
As the other posts here point out, you can wave your flag and whistle your tune, sell your crack, refuse to wear steel toes and safety glasses, solicit for your own business, hand out propaganda and sexually harass women on your on time, but not on company time! Companies have rules and policies that are usually designed to protect the business and its employees. If you can't live by the rules, you gotta go away.
I have to think that JD's decision to close this plant has much more to do with lack of business than the protests of a few good ol' boys in Pontiac. JD faces a lot more competition than it did even 30 years ago. My perception is that JD has rested on its laurels, continuing to rely on its name and the green and yellow colors to sell machines at high prices.
I don't imagine the plant closed down because of the protests. But they certainly didn't help. And these corporate shakedowns will continue until some exec somewhere has the balls to stand up and tell Jesse & Co. to take a slow streetcar to hell.
As long as there are stockholders, execs will continue to quickly pay Jesse a couple of mil to go away.
Usually it's the Democrats who make up "rights" where none constitutionally exist. The First Amemdment limits the Federal Governments ability to restrict speech, not John Deere's. JD is free to be stupid if they wish.
A company the size of JD is covered by the Civil Rights Act of '64 (and subsequent CR legislation.) This (not the constitution) would prevent them from discriminating on the basis of race, religion, national origin...
From what I have read in the papers, JD did not evenly enforce their workplace rules, the fired workers had a case. It sounds like certain members of their management subcombed to PC'ness, but they did not violate anyone's 1st Amendment rights.
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