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This was written by Ms. Rini. All I have done is correct the spelling and clean up the grammar a bit. The words and thoughts are her own.

I have a photo of Ms. Rini on my computer, but I do not know how to post it to the article. If anyone can help with that, please FReep Mail me.

1 posted on 11/20/2001 6:00:49 PM PST by Ronin (trspence@yahoo.com)
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To: Ronin
Most rank-and-file Nazi voters where just regular folks, too. So what?
33 posted on 11/20/2001 6:24:22 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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To: Ronin
I find some people to be naive about the true meaning and nature of their beliefs.
35 posted on 11/20/2001 6:24:52 PM PST by RLK
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To: Ronin
If a group I was affialated with was committing atrocities around the world, I would address that issue if someone asked me to write such a piece. At the very least, I would mention the dead.
36 posted on 11/20/2001 6:26:42 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: Ronin
20 years old? This is written by a pre-schooler. No matter, Muslims have proven themselves to be people of the lie anyway. Just another cultists spewing BS.
37 posted on 11/20/2001 6:26:49 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Ronin
Here's a picture of Muslim women taken at a rally in Jakarta, Indonesia. Does she remember it? Was she there? Would she care to comment on the sign being held up by the young lady?

Indonesian Muslim protesters shout anti-U.S. and Israel slogans during a protest in Jakarta, Indonesia, Friday, Sept. 28, 2001. More than 2,000 people rallied in the center of Jakarta on Friday demonstrating against a feared U.S.-led attack on Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Achmad Ibrahim)

38 posted on 11/20/2001 6:26:59 PM PST by Alouette
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To: Ronin
Except on the days I go to Mosque

Can you ask her how she feels about the fact that in Saudi Arabia, the seat of the holiest places in Islam, that women aren't allowed in many mosques and are "encouraged to pray at home" (their words)? In the mosques that do allow women, they have to enter through a different entrance than the men do.

39 posted on 11/20/2001 6:27:21 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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"But the newspapers and the television and the radio shows me nothing but images I do not want to see. I can't stand the pictures I see."

You can't ignore the truth. You can hide but the fact still remains that Muslims crashed airplanes into our buildings and killed Americans. For that they must be punished.

41 posted on 11/20/2001 6:27:38 PM PST by gcraig
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To: Ronin
Muslims in Indonesia are killing Christians...... what is she doing in behalf of them? It will say a lot about the person who wants to be a doctor in order to help people, to see some of it now.
42 posted on 11/20/2001 6:27:56 PM PST by califordubya
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To: Ronin
I doubt whether many Freepers worry much about whether Indonesian women wear veils. We're a lot more worried about the prospect of Indonesian men slaughtering more innocent Christians, as they do on a fairly regular basis.

And by the way, Ronin, it's good to hear from you.

43 posted on 11/20/2001 6:28:06 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Ronin
Well, as a practicing Atheist I can inform her that not only do I find Islam a bit nutty, I find all the religions a bit nutty. Hope that helps. :-)
45 posted on 11/20/2001 6:28:27 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: Ronin
Are you kidding? Bad joke.
46 posted on 11/20/2001 6:29:01 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Ronin
I want to remind you that not all Indonesians' impressions of American women are accurate either, and while I appreciate what you are saying, I have a few questions for you:

QUESTION #1: What are the differences between the Koran that the Terrorists are reading, and the Koran that the "peaceful" Muslim world is reading?

QUESTION #2: Why is there such an effort to convince non-Muslims in America that Islam is a peaceful, tolerant religion, but no such direct effort to convey the same into the Mosques in the US or the rest of the Muslim world?

QUESTION#3: Why are Christian churches, Christian worship and Christian preaching banned in so many Islamic nations if Islam is tolerant of all faiths?

QUESTION#4: Your religious leaders put a price (FATWA) on the head of Salman Rushdie and all he did was write a book that broke Islamic Law. Why don't you put a price on Osama Bin Laden directly and condemn him and other terrorist organizations as apostates for blaspheming your Allah?

48 posted on 11/20/2001 6:30:14 PM PST by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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If she excercised her free will and converted to another religion would her Muslim friends sentence her to death?

I know the answer, but what would she say?

49 posted on 11/20/2001 6:30:14 PM PST by keithtoo
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Here's just a few of the passages from the koran that call for the destruction of the West.  Any one of which, I believe, is justification for any animosity towards Islam that has been shown here on FR.

 

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YUSUFALI The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
PICKTHAL
The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
SHAKIR
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

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YUSUFALI
And this (He commands) Judge thou between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah's purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious.
PICKTHAL
So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires, but beware of them lest they seduce thee from some part of that which Allah hath revealed unto thee. And if they turn away, then know that Allah's Will is to smite them for some sin of theirs. Lo! many of mankind are evil-livers.
SHAKIR And that you should judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their low desires, and be cautious of them, lest they seduce you from part of what Allah has revealed to you; but if they turn back, then know that Allah desires to afflict them on account of some of their faults; and most surely many of the people are transgressors.

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YUSUFALI Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly) they will never frustrate (them).
PICKTHAL And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.
SHAKIR
And let not those who disbelieve think that they shall come in first; surely they will not escape.

009.005
YUSUFALI
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

009.073
YUSUFALI
O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.
PICKTHAL
O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end.
SHAKIR O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination. 009.073 YUSUFALI: O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. SHAKIR: O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.

50 posted on 11/20/2001 6:31:33 PM PST by Tree of Liberty
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Doesn't change my view one iota about Muslims. The religion they follow teaches its members that non-Muslims are to be treated as non equal, and that its perfectly ok to lie to non-Muslims if it furthers the Islam goal. Just more of the "Islam is peace" garbage. Remember "Actions speak louder then words", and so far Muslims are lacking in the action department by a very wide margin, in fact I would say its non existant.

God Bless America

52 posted on 11/20/2001 6:32:11 PM PST by JustAnAmerican
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I would advise Ms. Rini and you to read a book by

V.S.Naipaul, 2001 Nobel prize winner titled

"Beyond Belief"

Which describes state of mind of you people -- the non-Arab muslims colonized by foreign faith.

Islam is nothing but a tool of Arab colonization and mind-control

of people like you.

islam and modern society, democracy cannot co-exist.

Only Turkey is a real democratic muslim nation because

Ataturk got rid of most of the islamic garbage and hence Yurkey is really muslim country in name.

53 posted on 11/20/2001 6:32:59 PM PST by y2k_citizen
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I do not believe a word this supposed 'girl' said. Looks like a propaganda post to me. From our pals in Islam.
54 posted on 11/20/2001 6:33:12 PM PST by vladog
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To: Ronin
Treatment of Women in Islam
Fundamental Hatred of Women
62 posted on 11/20/2001 6:40:00 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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Yes, there are Muslims that are happy to live their lives peacefully, with many of the same wants and wishes and desires of nonmuslims. But there are also a lot of Muslims that apparently feel that it is their duty to Allah to do damage to those people they consider infidels. From what I've been reading, it isn't just confined to the fringe element either. The religious leaders are encouraging it, and the governments are, if not actively promoting it, at least not doing anything to discourage it.

Maybe your friend had better take off her rose colored glasses and take a look at all of the support for terrorists in countries around the world right now (including her own) in the cause of Islam. Then choose to either ignore it or take action to counteract it. All that it takes for evil to thrive, is for good people to do nothing.

63 posted on 11/20/2001 6:42:08 PM PST by Wissa
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I have not been kissed yet. And I have not been held as a woman wants to be held. Yes, I want it. Yes, I dream about it.

Baby, I am coming to liberate you....

But I can wait until I find the man I will marry.

Hmmmmm...maybe not.

64 posted on 11/20/2001 6:42:30 PM PST by Satadru
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