No Hard Times For Adult Film Biz

Mystique Magazine Online | 11-15-01

[longshadow]

....brings out the nobility in no one, arguably brings out the base in many; it's main benefit is to provide a passing pleasure (itself no virtue); it enriches a few.... [snip]

The same could be said of any number of diversionary activities humans engage in.

Cards.

Bingo.

Checkers.

Hopscotch.

Rag-time music, and (horrors!):

POOL! ("The game with the 15 numbered balls is the devil's tool.")

Are we to ban ALL recreational activities that you don't deem to be virtuous? Or do you just have some sort of problem with consenting adults getting naked and frolicking?

[IronJack]

Goody! Another SEX thread. There's nothing else going on in the world, so let's talk about Wunderbriefs and porno movies! How about a big neon sign saying "ALL NUDE ALL THE TIME! YOWZA YOWZA YOWZA! STEP RIGHT UP!!! SEX SEX SEX"

I don't understand why people pollute their cyber-neighborhood with crud they'd never tolerate near their homes. I for one don't want FR to turn into the magazine rack at 7-11.

[tpaine]

You seem to have JR's ear, at times. - Ever ask him why he puts up with it?

[Vigilanteman]

What is illicit about sex between 2 consenting adults?If they are married to each other, nothing. But I don't consider watching it entertainment. Most porn glorifies adultery, perversion or fornication; none of them are legitimate. Under adultery, a contract with a spouse is being violated. Under all three scenarios, a commandment of God is being violated.

If you can show me pornography between consenting adults married to each other, I will retract my statement.

[imperator2]

No Hard Times For Adult Film Biz

Without "hard times" the porn industry couldn't survive.

[dead]

That you mock it lends credibility to my thesis…

The final defense of crackpots everywhere.

[longshadow]

You really see these [Cards. Bingo. Checkers. Hopscotch. Rag-time music, and (horrors!): POOL! ("The game with the 15 numbered balls is the devil's tool.")] as equal to pornography?

You stated the attributes that you felt were attributable to "porn." I simply pointed out that cards, checkers, hopscotch, Rag-time music, and pool ALSO could be characterized the same way.

It was YOUR criteria, not mine; if it doesn't differentiate porn from the above list of innocuous pass-times, it's YOUR problem, not mine.

[curmudgeonII]

Thank heavens L.A.'s adult industry remains upright and vigorous.

Kudos to you.
It must be a tough job investigating pornography, but somebody has to do it.

[longshadow]

Your post is meaningless.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

Actually, my response was precisely on-point, in that it illuminated the fact that the lack of differentiation between porn and other innocuous pass-times was inherent in the criteria YOU used, and which I later quoted.

That you are unwilling to deal with this, and instead resort to denigrating the quality of my reply, is most telling.

[AFreeBird]

There is something terribly out of sorts about a woman who doesn't see porn as denigrating.

Oddly enough; some of the bigest producers of porn are women! Some of the biggest names in photography for that industry are also women. Not to mention that they also get paid the bigger bucks. In many area's of the porn industry it seems the glass ceiling is for the men.

[Skywalk]

Finally. It'd have been better for all involved had you merely said that your belief is non-factually based. That's not an insult really, it just means that when someone believes something because of being told or just a matter of taste, it's more honest of that person to just come out and state that, rather than cite serial killers and badly done studies funded by extremely partial parties.

[longshadow]

-- Even as you deftly dodged the issue.

Not at all. It is you who is avoiding the issue that your criteria condemns common innocuous pass-times as much as it condemns porn.

Look, you are much too smart for me. I'm a simple man with a simple mind. I shouldn't be playing in your pool.

You're entitled to your opinion. And it's not my pool.

Porn is sin. Plain and simple. I've seen my share of it. That should at least entitle me to an opinion.

You most certainly are entitled to consider porn to be sinful. It is your right to hold whatever opinion of it you wish. I support your right to do so.

But I do NOT support the use of coercive governmental power to restrict that which is harmless to the vast preponderance of people who enjoy it just because it is contrary to the sincere beliefs of a particular group of people, anymore that I would support the government restricting access to dime novels, playing cards, checker boards, rag-time music, or pool halls just because Prof. Harold Hill told the rubes in River City that those devices were devil's tools.

That said, no one has a right to force you to view porn if you don't like it, and your tax dollars shouldn't be used to support it.