MORON ALERT: FOGLEMAN URGERS LOWER STANDARDS FOR MEMPHIS CITY SCHOOLS

The Commercial Appeal aka Comic Appeal ^ | 11/16/01 | Aimee Edmondson

[GailA]

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Memphis gets the MOST money from the State and Still ranks LAST. Now this MORON wants to lower the standards even MORE.

[gulfcoast6]

Being next door in MS I read the Memphis paper a lot. This has been an on going proplem and I suggest that they just give the students a passing for just showing up, at least 20 days out the year.

[garbanzo]

If I didn't live here, I'd think you were making this up. I just heard from a friend of mine that Memphis teachers are among the most highly paid in the country. One would hope that the parents of Memphis would rise up and drive Watson out of town. But most will just move to the county and the others won't care.

[FiddlePig]

I totally agree with this guy, if these kids actually get a true education, they might prosper, GREATLY increasing the chances they'll vote Republican!
You know the motto: Keep 'em Dumb, keep 'em Democrat!!!

[Phantom Lord]

Want low standards? Come to NC where 31% is PASSING on end of year exams for 3rd, 4th, and 5th grade.

[GailA]

Most of these kids can't even pass the EIGHTH grade TCap test to get out of High School, even with weeks of coaching before the test is given.

Memphis spends a $1,000 more per pupil than Shelby County does. Yet the county produces a better student. So money is NOT the problem. For ever $4 collected in County taxes $3 of them go to the Memphis City Schools.

[The Duke]

Unfortunately, a more worthless piece of paper from the Memphis school system is not going to make a difference in a job interview.

[Khepera]

bump

[Tai_Chung]

He is stereotyping poor students. Poor students cannot go to college becasue they are not smart.

I believe students are doing poorly because of low expectations.

[Constitution Day]

Bump!

[LurkedLongEnough]

"the time has come that we need to stop letting half-baked testing determine what we teach and how we teach. It's controlling the school system..."

What is supposed to control the school system, anyway, Mr. Superintendent? Politics? Arghhh!

[ffrancone]

This problem is not unique to inner city schools. Douglas County, Colorado--a very affluent, rapidly growing ranch-burb--recently released it's CSAP results. Those results are tied to graduation. In math, which is the only number I remeber, 81% of seniors who hoped to graduate did not pass the 10th grade math test.

Parents are now agitating to dumb down the standards there.

[mbb bill]

The kids are getting too smart?? The department of education allowed them to learn???

[2Jedismom]

Good morning Ping!

[box221]

I thought people (kids) went to school to learn, not to just pass tests.

[Logophile]

Sociologist James S. Coleman sparked a national debate with his 1966 study concluding that the differences in student achievement had more to do with home life and family wealth than what goes on in the schoolhouse.

Educrats point to such studies to excuse lackluster student performance in the schools. Then they beg for more of the taxpayers' money.

But if it is the home environment that truly matters, why bother giving more money to the schools?

[All-American Medic]

Hey Garb, Memphis is Shelby County right??

[twigs]

I believe students are doing poorly because of low expectations.

I agree entirely. I have sat in lower learner classes and have been appalled at how teachers talk down to these students and the students, in reply, do not surprise the teachers. I met one teacher who came to the public school from an exclusive private one who told me she believed that she could get the same level of performance out of her public students--and she did. I saw the evidence--she got great work out of these middle-school students. But she was the only teacher I ever met who really believed it. What a pity and a waste.

[Osage Orange]

Logophile wrote:

"But if it is the home environment that truly matters, why bother giving more money to the schools?" WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Uh huh....that sociologist dude..kinda swerved into some truth there..now didn't he? Course we won't be a hearing that more money should stay in the sheeple's pockets. Ha!

Government schools are the biggest monopoly in America today. The Democrat Socialist Leftists..rail and rant against perceived corporate monopolies...but keep the children of this country fettered to a cancerous system that has imploded.

[Osage Orange]

box221 wrote:

"I thought people (kids) went to school to learn, not to just pass tests."

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Well of course you are correct....I, like probably most, have known many folks through out my schooling and working life that could pass the tests..lickity split. BUT, they were dumb as rocks, when faced with "real world" problems.

I've known some Doc's that were probably "C" students...but had grade "A++" bedside clinician skills. And I've seen just the opposite, big time!! So.....I agree with your "went to school to learn" comment....BUT, then again...we MUST have a way to gauge learning. We must have standards. And currently the best way is to test, in order...to realize one's proficiencies in a subject, or the lack thereof.

FRegards,