US forces on horseback fighting Taliban

UPI | 11/15/01 | PAMELA HESS

[SGCOS]

American Troops on horseback.. Now THAT'S a bunch of horse$hit.

groan....

[samtheman]

Rough riders. Yeah.

[Revolting cat!]

Wow, just like the Polish cavalry in September 1939 that we so like to ridicule and bring up as a quick example of idiocy, powerlessness and whatever sin we wish to exemplify at that particular moment! But this is different because hey, this is our cavalry! (Jes' jestin', of course!)

[Cannoneer No. 4]

At the command PREPARE TO DISMOUNT TO FIGHT ON FOOT, every fourth trooper becomes a horse holder. When the other troopers grab their rifles and dismount they hand the reins of their mounts to the horseholder as he rides by. The dismounted troopers form a skirmish line while the horse holders go to the rear. The horse holder has to control his own mount and three others while the dismounted action takes place.

[rockfish59]

depleted uranium for all!!!

[MindBender26]

No, you had to see these guys on BBC video!

They were in full "into the valley of death rode the 600" mode. Most has AKs or M16. Heads were not up but down along the horses neck, full gallop, shooting as they went, overrunning Taliban hidey-holes!

Real John Wayne Sierra.

[MindBender26]

YES.

Knew an old retired E-7 at Ft. Sill who had been a horse holder. Job was usually given to green kids or old semi-disabled privates. Those were days when men served 30 years and retured as Coroprals and Captains.

[115thINTC]

In the time of the North West Territories, the youngest member of a Five would hold the horses. This meant that the FNG's held the horses until they could be trusted in battle.

[115thINTC]

I am sure that they are using their mounted troops as maneuver elements and not in the role of Heavy Dragoons for shock value. I use shock in the sense of riding into massed shoulder to shoulder troops.

It would be interesting to work out tactical problems when you had a couple of hundred mounted troops to deploy.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

The Great Wheel of History Keeps Turning The branch insignia of US Army Special Forces is the crossed arrows of the Indian Scouts.

SCOUTS OUT

Fiddler's Green

Halfway down the trail to Hell,

In a shady meadow green,

Are the Souls of all dead troopers camped

Near a good old-time canteen,

And this eternal resting place

Is known as Fiddlers' Green.

Marching past, straight through to Hell,

The Infantry are seen,

Accompanied by the Engineers,

Artillery and Marine,

For none but shades of Cavalrymen

Dismount at Fiddlers' Green.

Though some go curving down the trail

To seek a warmer scene,

No trooper ever gets to Hell

Ere he's emptied his canteen,

And so rides back to drink again

With friends at Fiddlers' Green

And so when man and horse go down

Beneath a saber keen,

Or in a roaring charge or fierce mêlée

You stop a bullet clean,

And hostiles come to get your scalp,

Just empty your canteen,

And put your pistol to your head

And go to Fiddlers' Green

TOUJOURS PRET

[pocat]

Low-tech is sometimes the best method.

It has always worried me that we, and other modern nations have become too dependent upon high-tech electronic gadgets, particularly in the military. One blast of EMP from a nuclear detonation, and the circuits are toast. It's good to see that we have not abandoned the old ways.

[Theresa]

This war is gonna make a great movie!!! LOL!!!

[Cannoneer No. 4]

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[Miss Marple]

Actually, there was another article posted today which contains the information that they ARE participating in cavalry charges. The source is Paul Wolfowitz. It isn't in this article, but it was in the other one posted today.

Very cool. High tech targetting and cavalry charges. I am impressed. VERY impressed!

[Cannoneer No. 4]

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[No Truce With Kings]

Remember what soldiers from other divisions would say about the First Cav Div patch?

The horse they never had

The line they never crossed. . .

[majic12]

if we start riding camels, I'll get nervous.

[BansheeBill]

Of Interest from a US Cavalary website discussion board in answer to a question as to the last time horse mounted cavalry (which the questioner incorrectly spelled "calvary") were used in armed conflict.

Actually, the US Army never had Calvary units, but it did, and still has, Cavalry units. A minor point admittedly, but as a retired Cavalryman, one I am keenly aware of. The 26th Cavalry did see service in the Philippines in 1941/42, however, I seem to recall that General Patton mounted some units in France in late 1944 for use in rough terrain. Not sure if that really counts though. The 1st Cavalry Division was dismounted (1943) and fought as an Infantry Division during the recapture of the Philippines. The actual answer to your question is that last time the US Army used Cavalry in a war was 1991 during the Gulf War. The last time they fought with horses was likely 1942 (as an organized body). I do recall running a route reconnaissance mission alongside the 1st Cavalry Divisions Horse Cavalry platoon in 1979 when I was in the 1st Squadron 9th Cavalry. The Horse Cavalry platoon was a ceremonial unit, but someone got the bright idea of sending them to the field with us for a day. They actually had some advantages in the rough country, but they were very careful not to hurt their mounts. Regarding the earlier problem trying to locate the Cavalry schools former library, you might try checking the Cavalry Journal, there may have been an announcement or article regarding the disposal.

[John H K]

In certain unique terrain situations horses are still going to be the most efficient way for a military force to get around quickly.