AIDS, Hepatitis C, BSE: Infectious or Intoxication Diseases?

Continuum Magazine ^ | Autumn 2001 | Claus Köhnlein

[IronJack]

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[JameRetief]

I saw that you all were discussing this about a week ago and thought you might find this and the other articles I posted today interesting.

Check out the following links for the other articles from this last issue of Continuum Magazine:

Viral Load and the PCR -why they can't be used to prove HIV infection.

Mere Smoke Of Opinion; AIDS and the making of the public mind

Of Mice And Men; Viral Etiology Of Human Cancer: This one touches briefly on HIV and is informative in it's own right.

[JameRetief]

Saw that you too were discussing this issue as well, thought you might find this interesting too.

[Marty]

Add the following to the list of AIDS dissenters: Peter Duesberg and a list of fascinating articles I read his book Inventing the AIDS Virus several years ago and have had no fear of HIV since then. It was mindboggling. An excellent read, and much more has been published in this area since.

[JameRetief]

You should see his website. It covers his work from his very first dissenting paper. See them at www.duesberg.com,

[Marty]

I've probably seen it in the past. A few years ago, I read considerably information on the topic. Thanks!

[Hank Kerchief]

Thanks,

This is excellent.

I wish I could remeber who it was that was castigating someone for doubting the CDC, who really push the AZT and viral etiology of AIDS. The success of the anti-viral regimen as the only acceptable treatment for those tesing HIV positive is the result of people's superstitious acceptance of anything their authorities tell them, political, religious, educational, or medical.

Interestingly, this issue has very important political ramifications, and bears on such seemingly unrelated questions as the aborition issue. If AZT and related "therapies" are actually the killers of AIDS and HIV positive patients, a government with the power to force parents to do with their children what the government proscribes can force parents to "kill" their children by feeding them poison. As horrible as abortion is, the government does not force anyone to have one. Do people really want to give the government the power to decide whether their children live or die?

Of course, people who cannot possibly doubt anything the CDC says, will never be able to understand this question.

Hank

[RnMomof7]

I had alot of drug clients with hep C ..they are all dead now....inspite of agressive treatment....

[editor-surveyor]

Thanks for the ping

Apparently they plan to kill us all with drugs; all they need are enough invented 'communicable' diseases to justify administering the poisons.

[Time Traveller]

I had alot of drug clients with hep C ..they are all dead now....inspite of agressive treatment....

Were most of them long-time alcohol/drug abusers whose livers were further compromised by the aggressive drug treatment (i.e. did their condition seem to deteriorate even more rapidly after the treatment started)?

Were any of them non alcohol/drug abusers, who, despite their positive test for HCV, were otherwise healthy and only started to deteriorate after the treatment started?

[lavaroise]

there were 11 so-called dissidents (which I belong to), who cast doubt on the virus hypothesis and rather assume that AIDS in Africa is the result of increasing poverty

I really don't get it. The guy talks about virologists frauding people of the truth, yet he goes on doing politics. As if a cure for AIDS would be equality of wealth, a communist political ploy for thieves and gangster to obtain political prominence.

[Time Traveller]

"I really don't get it. The guy talks about virologists frauding people of the truth, yet he goes on doing politics. As if a cure for AIDS would be equality of wealth, a communist political ploy for thieves and gangster to obtain political prominence."

I was evidently stricken by a new, insidious air-borne strain of dyslexia while trying to read your reply, because I don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

Care to elaborate?

[editor-surveyor]

"Were any of them non alcohol/drug abusers, who, despite their positive test for HCV, were otherwise healthy and only started to deteriorate after the treatment started?"

Here you have identified the true victims of the 'epidemic.'

The pharmaceutical industry clearly has no scruples whatsoever with regard to the universal distribution of lethal toxins in the name of "curing" non-lethal conditions.

[RnMomof7]

All were compromised...tis true..but they are still dead..

interferon was used as well as some other chemo theraphy

[MHGinTN]

As an RN you no doubt took note of the mention on cervical cancer. HPV (human papilloma virus) is implicated far more than HIV in cervical cancer. The treatment regimens for HPV are strictly related to the cancer involved, as I recall. Therefore, I am somewhat skeptical of this author's thesis regarding intoxication; HPV has been implicated in a wide variety of cancers, in men as well as women. I don't think the verdict on viral causation in cancers is totally in yet, but viral 'snipping' of human DNA surely hastens development of mutation and enhances carcinogenicity.

[David Lane]

Very interesting article. I found a really great web site on the subject that has opened my eyes to many the lies we are being sold by the AIDS charities and pressure groups.

http://www.aidsRC.org

http://www.aidsRC.org

[jeremiah]

I wish I could post cheers and wild clapping, this article is on the button.

[jeremiah]

One day, we will know with absolute certainty, whether or not HIV+ = AIDS and death. If it doesn't, how culpable will judges be, for sentencing people that are HIV+ with attempted murder, for having sex with others without informing them of this fact. Let's say a man finds out he is HIV+, but believes absolutely that it is a BS disease, and is not sexually communicable. He is found guilty of the crime of sex, sent to prison, raped repeatedly by the heathens there, and spends the most productive years of his life in jail, while doctors on the outside, kill his "victim" with the treatment. Will history see our time as one of gold, or madness?