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Bizarre chemical discovery gives homeopathic hint
The New Scientist ^ | 7 NOV 01 | Andy Coghlan

Posted on 11/12/2001 5:02:09 PM PST by vannrox

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A very interesting read.
1 posted on 11/12/2001 5:02:09 PM PST by vannrox (MyEMail)
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Is this a peer-reviewed journal?

This sounds very suspicious to this chem major....

2 posted on 11/12/2001 5:05:32 PM PST by jude24
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To: vannrox
Now that is stretching an observation to support a conclusion!
3 posted on 11/12/2001 5:06:37 PM PST by TheLooseThread
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To: vannrox; Physicist
Off the top of my head, I don't think relating the behavior of fullerenes to other substances can be so casual. I wouldn't be surprised if they act in ways more typical molecules don't.
4 posted on 11/12/2001 5:08:35 PM PST by mlo
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To: jude24
It sounds suspicious to me, too (I have degrees in chemistry and chemical engineering) but I read of similar findings a couple of years ago. I seem to remember that it was published in Nature but I could be wrong.
5 posted on 11/12/2001 5:09:02 PM PST by DallasMike
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"...To say the phenomenon has biological significance is pure speculation." But he has no doubt Samal and Geckeler have discovered something new. "It's surprising and worrying," he says..."

Hmmm...

6 posted on 11/12/2001 5:12:50 PM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
I'll have a scotch and water and water and a little more water and water and water with just a little more water, if you don't mind bartender.

But just one for me, I'm driving.

8 posted on 11/12/2001 5:15:59 PM PST by steve in DC
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Junk Science.
9 posted on 11/12/2001 5:16:56 PM PST by corkoman
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To: DallasMike
Darn Homophobik medicine.

"What's å friggin' fag know about docterin' anyway!"

What about the opposite chemistry guys?

Remember rinsing to the third degree using distilled water to clean a vessel to an exponential level.

I'm not in the lab anymore, but I use it when making coffee{rinsing pot, thermos, etc. w/distilled h20 in a pumpspray}.

Everyone says I make the best coffee.

10 posted on 11/12/2001 5:18:08 PM PST by norraad
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To: vannrox
Thanks for posting this! I'll be sure to send it to my homeopath.

My entire family's been using homeopathic remedies for years and we rarely if ever need to see a doc, but no one believes us when we tell them! Oh well.

Hope this kind of research encourages other people to try it too.

11 posted on 11/12/2001 5:19:44 PM PST by ana
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To: steve in DC
"football-shaped buckyball molecules"..... I wish they could put this in layman's terms.
12 posted on 11/12/2001 5:21:06 PM PST by isom35
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Here's what a Bucky Ball looks like:

The spheres are carbon atoms.

Bucky Balls aren't that soluble in water. In an aqueous environment they tend to agglomerate. Continuing agglomeration of these molecules with incremental addition of water is not that surprising.

13 posted on 11/12/2001 5:36:20 PM PST by jimkress
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My entire family's been using homeopathic remedies for years and we rarely if ever need to see a doc, but no one believes us when we tell them! Oh well.

Thats a post hoc ergo propter hoc argument. In english that means, "after this, therefore becaise of that" and is the fallacious reasoning that because an event occurs after a previous one, they are causationally linked. That's VERY difficult to prove, but causation is the realm that science investigates.

There could be a multitude of reasons why you're healthy-- not involving homeopathic medicine. Nutrition, luck, exercise, any number of factors could be involved. But too frequently alternative medicine evangelists seize upon anecdotal evidence like this as reasons that you should try the latest cure.

I maintain that alternative medicine is not mainstream for a reason. If it really worked, doctors would use it to make them money.

14 posted on 11/12/2001 5:38:08 PM PST by jude24
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To: vannrox
How interesting. I've used homeopathic remedies with remarkable success. It's fascinating to see an article on why homeopathy works.
18 posted on 11/12/2001 5:48:11 PM PST by Darnright
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Wonder how much money a Doctor would make now, if he/she had to hang a lantern outside his house for every patient that died?
19 posted on 11/12/2001 5:48:14 PM PST by carenot
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My entire family's been using homeopathic remedies for years and we rarely if ever need to see a doc, but no one believes us when we tell them! Oh well.

My homeopath IS a doctor.

20 posted on 11/12/2001 5:48:24 PM PST by ikanakattara
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