[ZULU]

"he also believes "the ideal system is a male-controlled Islamic state," and he acknowledges discomfort with free speech that criticizes Islam."

This best defines why all Muslims are unfit to be American citizens. Allowing them to emigrate here makes as much sense as it would have made to allow members of the Kremlin to emegrate to the U.S. and set up indocrination schools here during the worst days of the cold war.

Wake up Americans and western civilization!! These people with their wacky beliefs and militant behavior created one dark age in the past, and will gladly do soagin, if allowed.

[Stultis]

Dubya has been criticized by some of the hotter heads among us for being too "pro-Muslim" (which I think is a genuine consequence of his being "pro-Faith") but to his credit nearly every speech he has made since 9-11 has said implicitly what those in less diplomatically sensitive positions should be unafraid to say explicitly:

Our culture IS better than theirs.

This is not merely a matter of opinion, prejudice or chauvinism, but is objectively true by virtually any criteria reflecting universal human values. We in the West have discovered -- in representative democracy, plus secular government limited by individual rights, plus regulated capitalism -- the best way for men to govern themselves and provide for the sustenance of human life.

We should be proud of this accomplishment, but we should not be arrogant. We should remember that we learned these things the hard way. Hundreds of years of vicious, largely pointless and nearly continuous religious warfare taught us the importance of secular government. Our horrific experiments in this century with fascism and communism (and absolute monarchy and many other earlier experiences) taught us the importance of limited government. Learning the secrets of civilization has been costly for the West, and our civilization, despite its many bright and shinning moments, has spilled more blood in its evolution than any other in human history.

But for this very reason, although we should allow others in so far as possible to "see for themselves" that our ways are better, and although we must restrain ourselves from pushing nonessential elements of our culture (including our religions!) onto others, the Islamic world CANNOT be allowed to repeat all our mistakes. Not in a world with six billion souls for whom we are all corporately responsible. Not in a world with weapons of mass destruction.

I think Bush is correct to say that Islam is a religion of peace. It is, in its highest and best and most complete understanding, the full ethical equal of any other organized human attempt to express true love, gratitude and devotion to God. But in many respects Islam (or rather the minds of many of its devotees) are where Christianity, or "The West," was several hundred years ago. Many Muslims, even "moderates," fundamentally reject secular government, for instance, and dream of universal Islamic government for all mankind. This is inexpressibly frustrating and frightening to educated Westerners. We KNOW, from our own flings with utopianism, that aspirations like this, regardless of intents good, bad or indifferent, lead with terrible inevitability to hell on earth. Reform of Islam with respect to modernism, freedom of religion, etc is essential, but it is far from clear that Muslims have the necessary history to understand that need. God grant they don't learn the hard way.

[etcetera]

American Muslims need to wise up. If they see the choice as being American or being Muslim and they choose to be Muslim first, then America is not the place for them to be. They aren't mentally comfortable here, and they aren't physically safe. It's time for them to realize this and leave. To stay would be hypocritical and unwise.

[Stefan Stackhouse]

Well, the nice thing about living in a free country is that you are always free to leave. We do not surround ourselves with concrete walls, barbed wire, mine fields, and machine-gun towers to force our people to stay here against their will. If they don't like it here, they are free to go -- and perhaps they should.

[Cold Heat]

BTTT

[WRhine]

The Levis-wearing engineer, Hamad, said: "I don't see anything necessarily wrong with the bombing of the (USS) Cole," referring to the attack in Yemen last year that killed 17 U.S. sailors.

This is precisely why we have to deport the Muslims here on visas because we can't let them get a foothold here and become instant traitor citizens like this hypocritical ingrate.

[etcetera]

The more I read reports like this, in which American Muslims hate America or hate being in America or hate what America stands for, I've come to believe that these people suffer some kind of mental disorder. A kind of self-hate because they're American and Muslim. I don't see this problem in Christian Americans or Buddhist Americans, just the Muslims. Makes you think that it's not the "American" part, so it must be the "Muslim" part that is the real problem. I've come to believe that it's incompatible for one to be American and be Muslim at the same time. You have to be one or the other. To try to be both is to suffer this self-hate. I suppose that the logical thing to do would be to choose - be American or be Muslim. To realize this and not take action would lead to the mental disorder of self-hate.

[brat]

Well I am sorry! If you are a CITIZEN of THIS COUNTRY, the choice should be simple. All others should leave!

[bluester]

She was told that 90% of the Arab world believes that America got what it deserved.

That's a pretty daring statement. She was told, she heard.... I can also come up with the idea that 70% of humans come from Mars, but that doesn't make it true.

Articles like this are only intended to fuel more hatred, even operating with very questionable "statistics" and numbers, that may very well be wrong.

This every Muslim is an enemy, all Muslims are evil, Islam called everything but a religion reminds me of some other times and mentality (Hitler like), that I thought were well behind. Obviously it is not so, and ignorance and hatred are still in eminent display here. Sadly

[Mortimer Snavely]

"Islam advocates and pleads for tolerance wherever it is in the minority; it advocates, implements and practices suppression and violence wherever it is in the majority."

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Spot on.

[dennisw]

As one Christian pastor who is familiar with Muslim countries wrote in an email recently: "Islam advocates and pleads for tolerance wherever it is in the minority; it advocates, implements and practices suppression and violence wherever it is in the majority."

Exactly what the Nazis and Commies used to do!

[WhiteyAppleseed]

Sounds like someone or some thing turned down the flame firing this kettle we call a melting pot. I've heard more of this same anti-American mentality locally when a small local university hosted a kind of forum for some Islamic immigrants, allowing at least two to vent their spleen against the USA. One of them wasn't an immigrant; one was an American.

[CWRWinger]

I noticed last week, the large, Arab convenience store/gas station near where I work, took down its big "We Stand By America" banner. Hhhmmmmmm. Many Arabs work there.

[gohabsgo]

awesome article. One you'll never see from our gutless bedwetting leftist media. I'll make sure this gets much travel today and should every Freeper who reads it.

[Mamzelle]

Bump! Northernright, eh? Love it, love it. Love our rightwingchix.

[Captain America]

Seethe about this you extremist asswipes:

that voice you're hearing isn't Allah's, it's Satan's

and that odor you're smelling is your soul burning.

[timestax]

Seething anger huh?!

[Hank Rearden]

I'm trying to remember when last I gave a damn what the Moos want, or what the Moos think.

I've concluded there never was such a time.

[timestax]

Bump against all terrorists!@!

[timestax]

Bump against all terrorists!@!