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One year on, Israel persists with death squads
The Independent ^ | 11/09/2001 | Phil Reeves

Posted on 11/10/2001 8:30:35 AM PST by l33t

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To: Architect
Sharon, who has slaughtered innocent women and children with his own hands.

Huh?

81 posted on 11/10/2001 3:56:10 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: Architect
the thieves out of the temple.

Yeah. Those strange people bowing towards Arabia.

82 posted on 11/10/2001 3:57:21 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Architect
Now they'll throw him [Arafat] away when they have no more use for him.

I can't wait!

83 posted on 11/10/2001 4:01:06 PM PST by Alouette
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To: jimmydean46
Plenty of references to a "mythical" statue - and I bet all the sources for these references are Pal propaganda sites.

How about a photograph or a cedible eyewitness

Plenty of references on the web to UFO's, flat Earth, etc as well.

84 posted on 11/10/2001 4:01:17 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: Inyokern
What? You mean you've never heard of Sharon's fun and games leading an earlier Israeli army killing squad? Back in the fifties? Here's a quote from him during an attack on the Palestinian refugee camp El-Burj in 1953.

"...The results were lethal. Fifteen residents of the camp were killed, including a number of women and children. At the summary of the mission, a number of men voiced their reservations: 'Are a few hundred miserable refugees, including women and children, our real enemy?' they asked incredulously. Arik replied, 'The women are the whores of the Arab infiltrators who have been attacking our civilians. If we don't act forcefully against the refugee camps they will turn into comfortable nests for murderers.'"

From the diary of Moshe Sharett.

85 posted on 11/10/2001 4:11:54 PM PST by Architect
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To: Sabramerican; Alouette
I've already mentioned on this thread how 90% of Israel belongs to Arab "at law" and that most of this is currently in the hands of the thieving state of Israel.

In response you people make infantile jokes.

86 posted on 11/10/2001 4:15:17 PM PST by Architect
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To: l33t
Phile Reeves sentiments are well know - he always manages to get an anti-Israel slant into his articles.
87 posted on 11/10/2001 4:21:39 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: Architect
From www.honestreporting.com:

The 1953 Kibya raid was part of an Israeli government policy to respond to deadly terrorist raids by "fedayeen" terrorists sponsored by neighboring Jordan and Egypt. Hundreds of Israeli civilians had been killed, and the government responded by sending Sharon's 101 Unit to hit the fedayeen, the army bases that supported them, and the villages that housed them. As the force approached the village, hundreds of Kibya residents were seen fleeing. The force believed that all residents had fled. According to the official IDF Encyclopedia, the soldiers found a young girl in one house and an elderly man in another. They were quickly chased away. Soonafter, IDF sappers blew up dozens of Kibya houses. No one knew that 69 civilians were hiding inside the homes. Their deaths were not deliberate.

To connect Sharon's actions as Prime Minister to those of a young IDF officer is unfair and misleading. Israeli-caused civilian casualties during those raids 50 years ago were not intentional -- though Arab attacks on Israelis were.


88 posted on 11/10/2001 4:23:09 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: Architect
Well, surely the most important person who has recognized Israel's right to exist is Yassar Arafat

If this were true then why has he refused till now to amend the Palestinian Covenent which clearly promotes the destruction of Israel.

89 posted on 11/10/2001 4:24:53 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: anapikoros
he always manages to get an anti-Israel slant into his articles.

You mean that European and Israeli journalists are honest, unlike the American? They have this strange habit of doing things like using the term death squad to describe death squads.

90 posted on 11/10/2001 4:29:59 PM PST by Architect
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To: Inyokern
Ah, www.honestreporting.com (sic). The Israeli propaganda site. Do you know who Moshe Sharett was? I think I would accept his words to those of some shills.
92 posted on 11/10/2001 4:35:05 PM PST by Architect
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To: anapikoros
Anti-Israel sentiment is central to his "reporting".
93 posted on 11/10/2001 4:37:16 PM PST by l33t
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To: Architect
You are assuming the Pals "own it" - I don't think that's ever been established.

Regardless of who owns it - it was territory from which a war against Israel was launched in 1967. As a result of that war Israel occupied it and as such it is currently a disputed territory. To date Israel has allowed the Palestinian Authority full administrative rights over 42% of the land and 97% of the Arab population.

If the Arab population wants autonomy and a state they will have to negotiate a deal with Israel - negotiating a deal doesn't mean you get 100% of what you want. Israel has certain requirements as well, not the least being the right to national survival.

The deal Arafat wants is 100% or it's no deal. The deal Barak and Clinton offered and that he walked away from wasn't a take it or leave it proposal but a step towards a negotiating positioin. Arafat never came back with a counter proposal other that to start the intifada.

94 posted on 11/10/2001 4:46:52 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: Architect
....90% of Israel which belongs to Arabs "at law"

And what "law" would you be referring to.

Perhaps the "law of the jungle", how about the "law of possession".

95 posted on 11/10/2001 4:55:23 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: anapikoros
I think you misread my words. I told that you that 90% of Israel belongs to Arabs and that most of this land is currently administered by the socialist government of Israel. By Israel, I mean Israel. Not the West Bank.

The land belongs to people who were driven out of their homes and have been forced to spend 50 years in refugee camps. The government of Israel itself acknowledges this fact.

96 posted on 11/10/2001 4:59:55 PM PST by Architect
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To: anapikoros
how about the "law of possession"?

That's what your argument always comes down to, doesn't it? Might is Right.

98 posted on 11/10/2001 5:01:44 PM PST by Architect
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To: damian5
If you criticism extends to the collateral damage of bombing in Afghanistan I will applaud you for being consistent.
100 posted on 11/10/2001 5:06:04 PM PST by l33t
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