Centralizing Law Enforcement

The New American ^ | November 8, 2001 | William Norman Grigg

[zeugma]

Bump for later read. Too long for me right this moment :-)

[fone]

Inspector Harry Callahan I presume.

Missed you bud. Keep up the good work.

[fone]

Verex = UN group monitoring the dismantling of weapons of mass destruction
Verax = UN group monitoring the dismantling of America's destruction

Do I get a cigar?

[Fred25]

Nonsense! Tonight he called for a new Civil Defense, to be run by local communities and citizen volunteers. He’s not trying to federalize everything. Wake up and pay attention.

[meadsjn]

It is certain that the best defense against criminals in both high and low places can be found in strong, effective, independent, local police -- and an armed, responsible citizenry.

I'll agree that an armed, responsible citizenry is detrimental to the security of the people and the nation.

There is little difference, however, between a national police force like NAZI Germany's or Stalin's, and a country full of local police forces which have been corrupted by asset forfeiture laws and militarized by the same national government.

Good cops have left their careers by the gazillion, and the ranks have been, and continue to be, filled by those who see the opportunity to pillage and murder with reckless abandon and the permission of the congress.

[dasboot]

to be run by local communities and volunteers

You mean like the public schools under G2000?

[dasboot]

If these organizations are staffed, designed AND FUNDED locally, I'm a 'go' on it. Federal funding...NO WAY. DUH!

[Fred25]

Nope. Like Civil Defense in the 1950s.

[dasboot]

Do you have the details of the plan?

[Drammach]

As the argument went, during the last Presidential Election:

No difference between Gore or Bush running the country
Except, with Bush, the Sleigh Ride to Hell will be a Little Slower.

I honestly believe that was a correct analysis.
The Police State was already in place, and these new laws, and actions are simply consolidating the planned totalitarian agenda.

Send me a tin foil hat if You wish, but G.H.W. Bush was quite clear about the need for a "New World Order", and as far as I'm concerned, the succeeding administrations (as well as all administrations since F.D.R.) are simply fillng in the gaps for Amerikas' own Iron Curtain.

[meadsjn]

I really wish to disagree with you -- I really, really wish I could.

And I'm really ticked at the Republicans for forcing me to concede to my father-in-law that there's not really a dime's worth of difference between the two parties.

[max61]

I have always wondered how the German people were duped by Hitler. I now know.

---max

[dasboot]

Well, Fred

Allow me to tell you what I could go along with:

The Fed does have the job of providing defense against domestic enemies; and if they institute a local CD network, it should be federally funded and identifiable as a federal agency; and not incorporate elements of state and local law enforcement. Coordination can be had for those exegencies that require such, but no general unanimity of purpose should occur. These offices address seperate and distinct areas of responsibility.

Among the greatest protections the people of this country have are the professional animosities and jurisdictional jealousies that exists between local, state and federal forces. A natural system of checks and balances exists. Where necessary, agencies can and do work together very well; but streamlining these agencies into an integrated command structure removes those checks, just like the gentleman points out in the article above.

Again , can you tell me what is the plan?

[Fred25]

There probably is no complete CD “plan” right now, but it will develop during the next several years. The 1950s plan had some federal funding but a lot of local funding too, and a lot of local control. The feds helped every city build large air raid sirens on high towers. Local people worked out evacuation plans and constructed fallout shelters. The feds furnished local CD units with Geiger counters, suggested evacuation ideas, and design plans for fallout shelters, but the local boys were in charge. (The big threat in those days was an atomic attack from Russia and radioactive fallout.)

Now, every city and county has slightly different Civil Defense concerns. Bush has had to act mostly on a federal level during the past two months, but I think he will be calling on the states, cities, and counties to take charge of their own local Civil Defense projects in the future. For example, armed local SWAT police teams are already guarding our own local power plant, with no federal supervision. And I think that the Bush Administration will not require “affirmative action” programs within local Civil Defense agencies, so I think they will be free and independent of federal control.

I think that during the next three years Bush is going to use this crisis as an opportunity to re-establish proper federal and separate local jurisdictions and responsibilities, as they were in the past, before the Democrats began to federalize everything. If we can have Bush for 8 years, I think this country will be much better off. What he is doing now could not have been attempted before 9-11, and he knows that. He is fully away of the excellent opportunity to turn back many years of bad Democrat and lax Republican leadership. Did you hear Ashcroft today saying that the feds are going to “exile” undesirable immigrants? When was the last time you heard that?? The last time I heard it was during the Eisenhower years in the ‘50s.

I think we are in for at least 3 very good years (provided we all don’t get blown up or poisoned by the Arabs).

[Fred25]

Listen to what Bush says about America “never being the same again”. Learn to read between the lines of what he says. Things like, “Live normally but be vigilant”. That’s the way it was in the old days. In other words, “Live free but be on guard from attacks by bad guys”. This was what America was like in the ‘40s and ‘50s. I think Bush has a lot of faith in local citizens and local control of local governments. Note how he praised the “heroes” on that flight that crashed in Pennsylvania. The Democrat ideology has been that “citizens shouldn’t take the law into their own hands”. But Bush is telling us all to be vigilant. “Vigilant”, get it? Not quite “vigilantes”, but “vigilant”. That’s very encouraging, coming from a President.

[Fred25]

Among the greatest protections the people of this country have are the professional animosities and jurisdictional jealousies that exists between local, state and federal forces. A natural system of checks and balances exists.

You are absolutely right about that, and that also contributes to local “competition” between jurisdictions, since most of them want to be “better” than the next town, state, or county. That’s good.

[Verax]

Bravo!