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What really happened to William Cooper.
Alex Jones Info Wars ^ | 11/8/01 | TaZ

Posted on 11/07/2001 10:37:51 PM PST by TaZ

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To: Poohbah
falsely reasoned.
81 posted on 11/09/2001 6:02:29 AM PST by KirkandBurke
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To: Poohbah
Darn it....I have to agree with you on this one....surprise ;-)
82 posted on 11/09/2001 6:05:51 AM PST by robnoel
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To: TaZ; Texaggie79
>Any Patriot who really wants to take our Country back to our former greatness should be truly sickened by William Cooper's final days.

Come on, guys, I can't believe you don't see the simple point I'm making here.

William Cooper was an old man with a wooden leg. Police had often dealt with him in the past without anyone getting hurt.

Does anyone really believe that any PROFESSIONAL law enforcement people would have serious trouble taking an old man with a wooden leg into custody without anyone getting hurt?

I have no info at all on what "really" happened that ended with Cooper getting shot. But I don't believe for a second that the accepted story, the story on his web site, is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about what really happened.

And to my eyes the only "truly sickening" thing about this issue is that so many people who've seen what the government can do -- from Waco to Ruby Ridge and even to Richard Jewell -- can accept a version of events which casts Cooper as a villain.

Mark W.

83 posted on 11/09/2001 6:28:21 AM PST by MarkWar
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To: MarkWar
William Cooper was an old man with a wooden leg. Police had often dealt with him in the past without anyone getting hurt.

They accomplished this by steering people away from Cooper. That includes telling the IRS to not serve papers for back taxes, et cetera, et cetera. But when Mr. Cooper decided to chase people down on a public highway and point guns at them, it became kind of hard to do that.

Does anyone really believe that any PROFESSIONAL law enforcement people would have serious trouble taking an old man with a wooden leg into custody without anyone getting hurt?

Well, they TRIED to serve the warrant on two previous occasions, and were told by Cooper that he would use deadly force to resist such service. Specifically, they were told on approach to his house--where he would have enjoyed cover and concealment and would have been able to blast away at the deputies to his heart's content.

Your question presumes that (a) Cooper was willing to be arrested, (b) that Cooper was an "old man" (58 is NOT that old), and (c) that Mr. Cooper was in his right mind.

Why don't you enlighten us ignorant peons as to how these guys SHOULD have tried to arrest Mr. Cooper?

85 posted on 11/09/2001 7:27:10 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
>Why don't you enlighten us ignorant peons as to how these guys SHOULD have tried to arrest Mr. Cooper?

[shrugs] As I said above, "Since 911, the Government has managed to arrest hundreds or even thousands of illegal & legal aliens here in the US without any of them getting killed. NOW they can't even arrest one OLD MAN with a WOODEN LEG without getting a deputy shot and the old man dead. Does a person have to be a tin foil kook to suggest that something seems wrong here?"

>That includes telling the IRS to not serve papers for back taxes, et cetera, et cetera.

Yeah, right. Think about it. Nobody tells the IRS not to collect back taxes. Not nobody not no how. And no local dumpwater sheriff tells other federal officers not to serve other papers. Such things do not happen. If they did happen, that raises more questions than the assassination itself.

Mark W.

87 posted on 11/09/2001 8:47:14 AM PST by MarkWar
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To: MarkWar
Then give us a DETAILED PLAN. NOW. I'm getting tired of listening to you Chairborne Rangers talk about how it could have been easily accomplished. I want either a detailed plan for dealing with a man who has repeatedly stated he will use deadly force to resist arrest, or an admission that you're a pathetic lamer.

And since Waco and the rise of the militia movement, the Feds have been a LOT more willing to listen to the sheriff in these sorts of cases.

88 posted on 11/09/2001 8:52:06 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
>Then give us a DETAILED PLAN. NOW. ... I want either a detailed plan for dealing with a man who has repeatedly stated he will use deadly force to resist arrest, or an admission that you're a pathetic lamer.

[laughs] [shrugs] [laughs more] Gee. I couldn't give you a "detailed plan" for how to perform a cataract operation. Does that mean the people who do it for a living, the ophthalmologists, don't perform such operations every day? Does it mean I'm a "pathetic lamer?"

[laughs] You're an interesting person, Poohbah. Thanks for checking in.

Mark W.

89 posted on 11/09/2001 9:10:53 AM PST by MarkWar
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To: Cvengr
Wrong? Cooper was threatening the life of a man for being on property that was public land.
90 posted on 11/09/2001 12:40:53 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Liberty Teeth
That is what Ruby Ridge was about?

Not the conflict. But they were those "types".

91 posted on 11/09/2001 12:41:49 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Cvengr
Cooper had been harassed repeatedly by liberal NWO covert types.

You might as well change the words NWO covert types to space aliens. Because the sentence sounds just as credible either way.

And there are 2 things you are ignoring about property rights. You may not force people off of property that is not yours, which is what Cooper did; and you have no right to resist a lawful arrest even if it is on your property.

92 posted on 11/09/2001 12:46:15 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: TaZ
Heck fire, here ah was thinkin you was talkin about J.D. Cooper. Whatever happen to that boy?
93 posted on 11/09/2001 12:50:28 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: Cvengr
Labeling Cooper as a 'militia' type fails to correctly identify his significance.

The label is not important, his actions are. Threatening the life of another for being on public land is not a reasonable action.

95 posted on 11/09/2001 12:59:57 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: MarkWar
He was fully capable of putting 2 bullets in a cop's head. I don't know about you, but that seems pretty threatening to me. All you need to be a deadly force with a gun is a working finger.
96 posted on 11/09/2001 1:01:54 PM PST by Texaggie79
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