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After attacks, many Southerners fly different flag
The Charleston Post & Courier ^ | October 29, 2001 | ELLEN B. MEACHAM

Posted on 10/29/2001 11:26:49 AM PST by aomagrat

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To: billbears
"indivisible"?
21 posted on 10/29/2001 12:58:08 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: JMJ333
I was angered by Constitution Day's implications. I will retract my suggestion that the confederate flag stands for anything but what ever it is you say it stands for...heritage or whatever.
22 posted on 10/29/2001 1:03:44 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Sparticle
I'm a subscriber. The only thing that would improve that much maligned magazine is if it had a website..last time I checked, it did not.
23 posted on 10/29/2001 2:05:25 PM PST by kaylar
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To: kaylar
Try again. The link is right here .
24 posted on 10/29/2001 2:08:33 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Like it or not your banner has been appropriated by some pretty crummy organizations and I don't hear y'all complaining about it much

Yea, and your yankee flag has flown over some pretty sorry things too... the brutal attacks on peaceful, soverign nations like Yugoslavia, the CSA, etc, Mai Lai, Wounded Knee, Waco, Ruby Ridge. The list goes on and on.

Lets ban that evil yankee flag and make it a hate crime to display it, OK?

25 posted on 10/29/2001 2:23:26 PM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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To: aomagrat
If you have a confederate flag on your pickup truck as a "symbol of southern heritage" you might as well have a picture of shackles and chains.
26 posted on 10/29/2001 2:28:49 PM PST by Hans Moleman
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To: Non-Sequitur
Like it or not your banner has been appropriated by some pretty crummy organizations and I don't hear y'all complaining about it much

Much the same with the Koran and the Bible. Could we get some muslims denouncing the Taliban and the concept of a Jihad? Not the notion that this is an unjust holy war, that there is no just holy war.

27 posted on 10/29/2001 2:31:05 PM PST by weegee
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To: JMJ333
Then shame on them for mis-using our flag. You know that flag doesn't stand for hate---its heritage.

Get over it. The South Lost the Civil War and their symbols should have faded away with the Confederacy. Your nostalgic obsession with the Confederacy would be like Germans flying the Nazi flag because they wanted to respect their heritage.

29 posted on 10/29/2001 2:47:26 PM PST by Dr. Pepper
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To: Dr. Pepper
Your nostalgic obsession with the Confederacy would be like Germans flying the Nazi flag because they wanted to respect their heritage.

My nostalgic obsession? Some of us have family who fought valiently in that war and are buried like dogs in a mound at places like Shiloh. You compare the confederacy to the nazis? Are you so stupid that you don't know the stars and bars never flew over any slavery? It was a BATTLE FLAG. All I ask for is that my heritage isn't spit on and torn down by my fellow Americans, but that is asking a lot, I'm sure.

Your petty little mind can't grasp the fact that the WONA had more than one causation. Want to guess which flag it was when the slave ships pulled into port on the African coast?

30 posted on 10/29/2001 2:54:49 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: Dr. Pepper
Get over it. The South Lost the Civil War and their symbols should have faded away with the Confederacy.

Being a newbie here, you haven't realized that the confederacy is very much alive in the hearts of southerners--especially southern freepers. Why don't you stop listening to that propaganda line fed to you by the mainstream press and publk skewls and educate yourself before belittling the struggle for limited government.

31 posted on 10/29/2001 3:02:23 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
My family is from New Orleans and I am well aware of what the Union did to the South during the WONA. However, I understand that the war ended 136 years ago and that the South lost. I also understand that it is our human heritage to accept views of those who conquer our nation. Therefore, Germans do not fly the Nazi Flag, the Japanese do not fly the Imperial Japanese Flag, and the nice people of English heritage in the New England states do not fly the Union Jack. They all lost their Wars and the Stars and Bars is a symbol of the ignorance and intolerance of the South.
32 posted on 10/29/2001 4:03:10 PM PST by Dr. Pepper
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To: Dr. Pepper
the Japanese do not fly the Imperial Japanese Flag

The famous "sunburst" flag of the Japanese Empire is now the naval ensign of Japan and flies over all of their warships. I have seen if flying over Japanese ships making a port visit in Pearl Harbor HI.

33 posted on 10/29/2001 4:18:50 PM PST by aomagrat
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To: JMJ333
Being a newbie here, you haven't realized that the confederacy is very much alive in the hearts of southerners--especially southern freepers

Ever since Reconstruction we have heard the belly aching of the white people of the South whining about how the rest of America does not understand their heritage.

Back in the 1960's we did not understand the Southern heritage of forcing African Americans to ride in the back of the bus and we did not understand that proud heritage of segregation of public schools. We did not understand the heritage of turning fire hoses and police dogs on the Freedom Marchers and did not understand the heritage of white Southerners burning down African American Churches. We did not understand the heritage of the white people of the South not permitting African Americans to vote and do not understand why you would pay alliance to a system that oppressed people simply because the color of their skin.

Not only did the White people of the South lose the Civil War but they lost the war of Civil Rights! The next war they will lose will be the war of Demographics when the White Folk become a minority in the South! When that day comes I hope the African Americans who are in power have more intelligence and compassion then your heritage.

34 posted on 10/29/2001 4:24:34 PM PST by Dr. Pepper
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To: Dr. Pepper
They all lost their Wars and the Stars and Bars is a symbol of the ignorance and intolerance of the South.

Wrong. Try a symbol of rebellion against federal tyranny, a symbol for states rights and limited government, a symbol for adherence to the constitution. What? You don't find these things worth keeping alive? I suppose you think a big bloated federal bureacracy is wonderful.

The war of 1861-1865 was less about slavery than it was all about how the Tenth Amendment is defined by the person with the most powerful army.

The results of that war still affect all Americans today. Do you complain about how the federal government willfully ignores the rights of states every day. And if the whole mess was about slavery, then we must be still fighting; else the wrong side won the battle against slavery and involuntary servitude.

Being over-taxed to keep officials fat and happy enough to take more of my rights away against my will is involuntary servitude.

Most likely the majority of Americans agree with you, which is why we'll never see a constitional republic again.

35 posted on 10/29/2001 4:42:37 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: Dr. Pepper
The next war they will lose will be the war of Demographics when the White Folk become a minority in the South! When that day comes I hope the African Americans who are in power have more intelligence and compassion then your heritage.

Oh please. You show your ignorance. Slavery is wrong. We got it. Compassion? Too bad the 500,000 slaves that came here didn't get to go to the middle east instead.

In the Arab world African slaves were highly prized as eunuchs. They were used as guardians of harems and as civil servants, some of whom amassed considerable power. But many young African men died in the process because of inept or infected castration. Now THAT'S compassion! /sarcasm

36 posted on 10/29/2001 4:48:09 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
Dr. Pepper member since October 16th, 2001

37 posted on 10/29/2001 4:59:06 PM PST by thulldud
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To: Non-Sequitur
The KKK are to Christianity and Southerners what the Taliban are to Islam and afghanis.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LoanPalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

38 posted on 10/29/2001 5:02:05 PM PST by LonePalm
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To: Hans Moleman
Would that apply to my import sedan as well??
39 posted on 10/29/2001 5:05:11 PM PST by Ready2signup
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To: Hans Moleman
If you have a confederate flag on your pickup truck as a "symbol of southern heritage" you might as well have a picture of shackles and chains.

If you have an American flag on my car does that mean you support bombing aspirin factories in the sudan?

40 posted on 10/29/2001 5:08:25 PM PST by JMJ333
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