Posted on 10/26/2001 9:17:04 AM PDT by Native American Female Vet
Ah, I see. But a little bird told me that the "right people" aren't always going to be in charge. Haven't you heard?
We are in war for our survival. Sacrifices will have to be made. I don't know if you have noticed but we also now have to fear that someone has put a deadly disease in our mail and is planning on attacking our food and water or bomb us with a nuclear weapon. You provide the government with the answers how to catch them using our current laws. If you can't, maybe you will understand the problem the government faces.
This is not a perfect world since some terrorists decided to come over here and fly our airplanes into towers killing thousands. We have to do something.
One other thing, what about the rights of the soldiers having to go fight this war? Seems like their right to a home life, their right to freely come and go, their right to spend time with their children also has been put on hold. Sure don't hear them complaining.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I guess if I am subject to search at any given time, this means no longer means anything.
---max
Really?. Why then has Congress not declared war?. And since it is a war for survival as you state, how will we know when we win?, what can I tell my kids to look forward to as a victory? I mean since I am being asked to sacrifice, how will I know when I've sacrificed enough?, can you tell me.? Just what do we need to do so that people in the rest of the world won't want to kill us?. Who or what has been done to these people that they are fanatic enough to become kamikazi's?.
Since this is a "war", why don't we declare war and start really conducting war. Let's figure out what we need to do and build, allocate resources at a national level and win in as little time as possible.
BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. We get the "Patriot Act" which allows the government to act as if we are all terrorists and a new bureaucracy to feed us all bull$hit.
Remember to smile when you bend over.
---max
I have a suggestion. Why don't you start a petition to get rid of the Terrorist Bill. Why don't you figure a way to find the terrorists and get it done without needing to get intelligence through emails, telephone wiretaps, etc? The Pentagon is asking for all kind of help - I'm sure you have wonderful ideas of how all can be handled to keep us free without anthrax and without airplanes crashing into our buildings and, yet, still have no one knocking on doors, doing wiretaps, etc. They are waiting on your information.
Why don't we declare war? Who do we declare war on? You declare war on a country - not a terrorist. In addition, I heard something a long time ago that the reason might be that if war is declared it affects insurance claims and through that avenue has an effect on the economy. It also limits other aspects. I assure you the declaration of war has been reviewed as any president would do. There is a reason it has not been declared - I don't know the reason but there is one. Look at the advantages and disadvantages of declaring war if you are so hung up on this aspect.
Now go into your corner and feel sorry for yourself - you are alive, you are here in the U.S. and not going in to be blown up and someone will kill them for you before they make it over here to get you. Poor pitiful Max.
Speak for yourself. Some of us don't like that this man has signed into law an era of unbridled government intrusion.
The "USA Patriot Act of 2001"? Good Lord, these people play games with semantics even more brazenly than the Clintonistas. I suppose anyone NOT supporting this bill should be considered UN-patriotic now, right?
Bushies are just like Clintonites... they were simply lucky enough to have a convenient national tragedy give them their excuse for more power.
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