Life after the terrorism bill is signed...not your fathers America

[sinkspur]

Every financial house,broker,banker now has to report anything they think is strange trading activity

Nervous?

[Jay W]

It may not mean much if the courts are corrupt, but Congress cannot pass a law that amends or ends the Constitution. Any such "law" is an illegal law.

Like I said, not that such technicalities mean much to a lot of people any more.

[CWOJackson]

My father wasn't South African.

[robnoel]

No...I am a broker :-)...its the client that has to worry

[robnoel]

Try reading before you post!

[CWOJackson]

I did read it...

[robnoel]

Here is something we all have to deal with...no question this bill will end up in the SC...taken there I have no doubt by the ACLU....strange bedfellows!

[dep]

not to put too fine a point on it, but this is not a tin-pot dictatorship. and in times of war a great many peacetime liberties have been limited, throughout our nation's history, from john adams's presidency's aliens and sedition act to lincoln suspending habeas corpus (and defying the supreme court when the court ruled his action unconstitutional) to the god-awful wilsonian pre-war and wartime activities to fight "sedition," to a multutide of limitations during world war II. always, those liberties and more were later restored. indeed, most of the stuff made legal by the current bill wasn't illegal at all during the earlier wars. admittedly, some of it would have made no sense -- monitoring email during world war II wouldn't have taken much time, nor telephones during the civil war. but much of what has been enacted here has been to write around overstepping by the supreme court in recent years. in other words, chill.

dep

[robnoel]

Try it again

Life after the terrorism bill is signed...not your fathers America

[Illbay]

Instead of rabble-rousing, why not stop and consider that if such abuses occur, the courts will very likely bottle it up. That's the way things usually work. Have faith in our wonderful, inspired system of "divided government."

We have something that South Africa never had--and probably never will--the Constitution.

[CWOJackson]

Based on your experiences in South Africa? Like I said, my father wasn't South African.

[robnoel]

I wish I had faith in the so called four year sunset provision....however once a law is on the books it is there for life....if I am correct the Spanish-American telephone tax still appears somewhere on our phone bills....that law was passed before telephones showed up...for a humour break here are a few laws still on the books

Alabama

It is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while operating a vehicle.

Brewerton: Use of motor boats forbidden on city streets.

Alaska

It is forbidden to push a moose out of a plane in motion.

It is against the law to look at a moose from an airplane.

Fairbanks: No moose is allowed to have sex on city streets.

Arizona

Glendale: It is against the law for a car to back up.

Mohave County: Anyone caught stealing a soap, must wash himself with it, until it's all used up.

Arkansas

A man has a legal right to beat his wife, but only once a month.

It's illegal to mispronounce the name of the state (ie of course Arkansas).

Little Rock: Flirtation between the members of the opposite sex on the streets may result in a 30-day jail term....

California

A woman cannot drive a car while she is dressed in a house-coat.

It is illegal to set a mousetrap without a hunting license.

It is illegal for anyone to try and stop a child from playfully jumping over puddles of water.

Belvedere: "No dog shall be in a public place without its master on a leash."

Blythe: A person must own at least two cows before he is permitted to wear cowboy boots in public.

Hollywood: It is illegal to drive more than 2000 sheep down Hollywood Bouleward simultanously. �

[robnoel]

I lost you somewhere....not talking about my farther or South Africa....the headline applies to Americans....this is not your fathers America....get it!

[sinkspur]

No...I am a broker :-)...its the client that has to worry

If you were my broker, I'd worry.

[CWOJackson]

Oh, the title and content aren't related? LOL!

The title is nothing more than something you wrote based on your own assumptions...and is nothing more than a title.

[M. Thatcher]

CWOJackson is right. Read your own piece. You stated: What Americans now face is no different than what South Africans had to deal with in 1976...how do I know...I was there...

The is the entire "logical" basis upon which you rest your argument. Which is as groundless as most of your posts.

[sinkspur]

They are making some good ones, but there worst ones are setting the Dems up with a dream party platform. The fact that the Dems will love what Bush is doing to us will not stop them from posing as the true defenders of the faith.

What "faith"? The American public loves what Bush is doing.

If the Dems run on some strange ACLU platform, they'll have their asses handed to them.

[John R. (Bob) Locke]

Hope those asbestos underwear aren't making you itchy, amigo.

And I'm not surprised to the see the totalitarians-in-waiting here on FR rushing to defend this action. The idea of a limited government actually restrained by the Constitution is of little consequence to them, so long as that government is controlled by one of "their" guys. I would imagine that if Gore had been elected, the hue and cry would be near-universal. But they trust Bush, and that is why we're in trouble.

Sad to see.