Posted on 10/24/2001 9:44:01 AM PDT by bassmaner
Thanks, Doc! I think I needed that! The events of the last 6 weeks have made all of us a little paranoid.
Thank God for the Internet ... a billion monkeys all typing at the same time, and occasionally, one comes up with something really good.
I would prefer you did not live in America at all.
I'll grant that there are indeed anti-American power-mongering conspirators at work in this country, and there may be some sophisticated conspiracys going on. What the tinfoil-hat crowd forgets is that the conspirators don't have to make these events (WTC, OKC, Columbine, etc.) happen, such events WILL happen on their own - the wise conspirator will not muck up the works by making things happen (and potentially fail or leave evidence), he will plan to manipulate the outcome (use rhetoric to pit one group against another, or to influence legislation). Sarah Brady didn't dope up some kids, brainwash them, arm them, and send them to Columbine, she just planned her press conferences & bills and waited for the inevitable to happen. Likewise, conspirators abusing the 9/11 events did not make the planes crash or mail Anthrax, they just waited for the inevitable high-profile terrorist act to occur and are now reacting as planned.
$h!t happens - those who plan on it happening simply have to wait for it to happen.
Like you, I have heard about the CFR, Illuminati, etc for years and never payed much attention. Recently, I have started doing some research on the Fed, which leads to the CFR and everything else. The list of CFR members is quite amazing.
For example, you may have heard about the U.S. Commission on National Security. This is also called the Hart-Rudman Commission. This is the commission that suggested the Office of Homeland Security. You may know that both Gary Hart and Warren Rudman are members of the Council on Foreign Relations. But did you know that all twelve of the "Commissioners" are members of the Council on Foreign Relations along with the Executive Director? Note that the Commission's website, www.nssg.gov, has a GOV extention, not ORG.
If you have never paid attention to the CFR, then this probably means very little to you. I would be more interested in the comments of those who have their tin-foil hats firmly planted on their heads:)
Not at all. I don't believe that anti-Semitic nonsense anymore than I believe the tin-foilers. I'm simply trying to play devil's advocate. As you're probably aware, the federal government hasn't been the most forthright and honest organization in recent years (re: X-42 and his bride).
It's not stupidity; it's just honest skepticism. Get a grip.
I have a very good grip. One that I've spent many meny years developing. Truth is simply truth, and if you don't want to know it, you never will. The Office of Homeland Security has been in the planning stages for many years - it's documented quite thoroughly. It was only waiting for an "event" to make the American people be willing to give up the things they've refused to give up, freedom wise, for the last 10 years or so, to be implemented. 11 September was the event.
Coincidence or not, that IS what happened and is happening.
Here to stay. And moving right next door to you.
Howdy neighbor!
:The Office of Homeland Security Karen Lee Bixman reports that the Office of Homeland Security was not the President Bush's idea. It's been in the works for over five years and it isn't just watching terrorists -- it's going to watch you.
See my post above (#27).
Perhaps. But not to believe that the USA gov't was waiting for just such an event to be able to implement complex plans that they'd had for quite some time. I don't think "our" government did the WTC attack. But I do know that they're taking advantage of it having happened. Have you read what's in the bills they're passing, some without even reading them??? It's the same stuff that they've been trying to pass for YEARS, but that the public refused to allow by raising such an uproar every time they'd try.
Yep.
You are so correct. Just look at all the sheeple who woke up in Madison, Wisconsin when the school board banned the pledge and allowed only the National Anthem played without words. From my understanding, there were no FReepers at that hearing. Over 1,000 sheeple attended the hearing which reversed the decision and a recall effort is underway. Also, look at the other situations: the company who banned little American flags on cubicle desks, the fire trucks displaying flags, etc. The people are awake and the liberal left is dying a fast death. The only ones remaining are the fringe, luanitic, die-hards. I wouldn't doubt that many of those fanatics are developing some of the conspiricy theories.
Where's Carvelle? Bonior? and the score of others? Their voices have been squashed. Their little petty leftist agendas are nothing compared to freedom and liberty. Campaign finance reform? Gone. Look at the surge of gun sales and the backlash the the anti-gun crowd is receiving. PETA wanting to have gas masks for animals. The liberal agnedas are really comical, without substance, and the sheeple are seeing through it now. Thank God!
Of course it is!
Here, let me sing you a little song that will make you feel better:
Go to sleep
Go to sleep
Go to sleep, my little baby ...
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