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BUSH'S ORWELLIAN ADDRESS: HAPPY NEW YEAR -- IT'S 1984
The Mighty Organ ^ | Recently | Jacob Levich

Posted on 10/23/2001 7:58:00 PM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName

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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
"You didn't lock your doors because there was a lot less crime. Even so, punishment depended on capture and capture could easily be avoided by going across a state line. "

That's sweet.

What state you from?....in Texas, it takes a while to cross any line, so we usually catch them.

41 posted on 10/23/2001 9:32:31 PM PDT by loulou
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
The terrorists can amaze us some, but they can't possibly take on the US in a meaningful fashion. We should recognize that and not make a mountain out of a comparative ant hill.

I disagree. They use our own industries and resources against us. They've been plotting against us for years and they have come up with "the final solution" to America, the great Satan. We are going to be gremed, nuked, or whatever, as soon as they get a chance. Their people are already here and will use our sense of fairness against us, unfortunately. To them, we are just useful idiots to spread their philosophy by force and fear.

It's no secret that a smallpox epidemic could wipe out 30% of our population in about a month. Imagine what America would be like then.

42 posted on 10/23/2001 9:33:35 PM PDT by Concentrate
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
I don't want a nanny, but one thing the federal government is responsible for under the Constitution is the common defense and welfare of its people. They have very little other place in our lives, but this one they do have.
44 posted on 10/23/2001 9:35:10 PM PDT by Commonsense
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
It is true though, that there were no TV's or regular sex in prison.

Can I get an Amen on that?

45 posted on 10/23/2001 9:38:35 PM PDT by Concentrate
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To: FreeCali
courage to own up to censoring that or some of my other posts, yet

Don't hold your breath. The Thought Police don't own up to nothing. They hide in dark alleys and behind website titles like "moderator".

46 posted on 10/23/2001 9:42:57 PM PDT by America's Resolve
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To: Commonsense
I don't want a nanny

I wasn't trying to imply that you personally want a nanny. Sorry if there was any misunderstanding on that.

but one thing the federal government is responsible for under the Constitution is the common defense and welfare of its people. They have very little other place in our lives, but this one they do have.

This is what gives us the right to arm chair quarterback.

47 posted on 10/23/2001 9:43:44 PM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: amundsen
I hear a lot of carping out of you, but no solutions.

What would you have us do? Ignore the attacks? Ignore the anthrax? Ignore the 1500 new orphans in this country?

48 posted on 10/23/2001 9:44:53 PM PDT by America's Resolve
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To: rightofrush
True, but who holds the mortgages?

Noone. We forgave those debts because they were never going to be repaid anyway. Regardless, a "mortgage" so to speak, would have no enforcable effect. Why? Because, regardless of what you and others say, we are not that kind of country. No one should doubt that had our intention has never been to dominate the world because we easily could have many times over, including today. Talk to the contrary is idle pap.

49 posted on 10/23/2001 9:50:22 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
I wasn't trying to imply that you personally want a nanny. Sorry if there was any misunderstanding on that.

I know. But those in charge are certainly in a position of damned if they do/damned if they don't.

50 posted on 10/23/2001 9:53:43 PM PDT by Commonsense
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Wouldn't we have obtained more power and wealth had we occupied most of the world after we had conquered it?

Couldn't have said it better myself. Exactly!


51 posted on 10/23/2001 9:55:34 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Commonsense
Is it just me or are these people beyond tin-foil hats and into just plain paranoia?

Of course this is going to be a perpetual war. Because America likes it? Not hardly. Because by forcing its people to read the koran 12 hrs a day, and very little else for their first 20 years, they're going to spin off new "terrorists" aka mercenaries, every generation for the rest of time. That's been the track record for the past 1400 years, and I see no reason to think that that is going to change in our lifetimes.

52 posted on 10/23/2001 9:56:41 PM PDT by America's Resolve
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To: Concentrate
but they can't possibly take on the US in a meaningful fashion.

I agree with your disagreement. These people are stupid as stumps. But they do learn.

They bombed the WTC in 1993. When it didn't work as they'd planned, they stepped back and waited, studying, doing their homework until they got it right.

The anthrax delivery mechanism is very crude. By 2005-2010, we can expect to be hit in a much more efficient fashion.

They'll be back. THEY'VE FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE KILLING AMERICANS AND AMERICAN BUSINESSES PAY BY SHORTING THE MARKETS! THEY'LL BE BACK OVER AND OVER AND OVER, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

53 posted on 10/23/2001 10:01:50 PM PDT by America's Resolve
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To: amundsen
"I don't know, I do not have sufficient information to know what to do since it is all classified. I'd rather not make decisions based on the information they allow through or present as leaked facts."

The destruction of The World Trade Center is a fact. And don't give me any crap that we don't know who did it. As far as shrinking the military, all I can say is, every time we let our guard down in that way we get hit. If you want to shrink the federal government do it on the social side where it has no business in the first place.

55 posted on 10/23/2001 10:03:51 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: willyboyishere
This guy has apparently read only one book, 1984, and didn't even understand that one.

Well...

If he has read 1984 he understands it much better than most. I have been thinking the same for some time - especially since mid-September. I suggest you go back and read 1984 and see if it does not give you the chills.

Oceania is perpetually at war with an ambiguous enemy. Congress did not even bother to declare war. The gov't has proposed rolling back most of our civil rights and liberties. Of course this is fine with most, because we are at war. Wait! Congress didn't declare war. Hmmmm....

We think it's just fine for people to be rounded up and held in secret. Torture is OK too. Folks are clamoring for their gov't to order their lives to defeat terrorism. Office of Homeland Security? What is this? What in the f**k has government been doing with all their other departments? What do they spend 1/3 of my income doing? CIA, DOD, NSA, FBI, INS, etc... What were they doing? Why do we need a redundant department to monitor internal citizen activity? Orwell answers that question.

Never mind that if we had just had some standards with regard to allowing people to enter and roam around our country, perhaps we could have prevented some of this ugliness.

Read 1984 and you will see that we are headed to become Oceania.

Flame away! The Constitution comes before El Presidente.

56 posted on 10/23/2001 10:04:47 PM PDT by Orion
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To: Orion
In fiction maybe...cold reality is far, far different.
57 posted on 10/23/2001 10:08:05 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: amundsen
"I didn't dispute the WTC being destroyed. And I maintain I do not, nor do you, know who did it other then the guys that we are told were on the planes."

You live in a dream world where nothing is ever absolute. You can have logic stareing you in the face and you react by sticking your head in the sand. Thrill me by telling me who took down The World Trade Center and why they did it.

59 posted on 10/23/2001 10:28:56 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: I_Had_Enough
Just how do you picture domination of the world?

If your intention is to start a word game, ala Bill Clinton and his leftie enablers, then you will soon be on your own. However, if you are serious, by domination I mean the ability to control all societies and dictate to them the terms of their existence. To answer your question as it was asked, I don't picture world domination.

60 posted on 10/23/2001 11:02:56 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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