POWER OUTAGE AT THE WEEKLY STANDARD

The Weekly Standard ^ | 10/22/01 | The editors

[JURB]

Why, whenever I hear the term National Greatness, it immediately reminds me of other "national movements": The New Deal, The Great Society, The Great Leap Forward.

It has an ominous ring to it. And after reading Kagan and Kristol's latest pap full of vague generalities and exhortations (in which they call for more "seriousness" in gov't and foreign policy), it screams "hidden agenda". As if Kagan and Kristol spend hours and hours in a darkened room, carefully crafting their latest editorial, writing and rewriting, right down to the exact word and phrase, until they deem their handiwork appropriate for mass consumption.

Isn't it any wonder that Kristol tends to cast his lot with the shining political star of the moment? Not too long ago it was Colin Powell (now enemy number one). This past election cycle it was John McCain. Kristol and his gang are no friends to conservatism/libertarianism. He is an opportunist, angling to get in on the inside, so he can shape and influence policy. To what ends, God only knows (and I hope we never have to find out).

[Burkeman1]

The men of Easy Company would be the first to agree with Raimondo. ANd I amsure many of them would rather that war never happened. That is not to say they wished they never fought. They just wish man was a little bit better and that there was no need for it. My Grandfather was in WWI in France and saw combat (My father was not born until my Grandfather was 55 believe it or not). He never once spoke about it. He was not Pro war. ONly a fool says that soldiers are pro war.

[Justin Raimondo]

You misunderstood my point. No real soldier is pro-war in a visceral sense of glorying in war -- you know, like the Klingons. They see war as essentially tragic, not something to be celebrated or wished for. They see it, in short, as a last resort -- as does any President worth his salt.

[Burkeman1]

Pearl Harbor? Let's see- America wanted to stop Japanese agression in China. We put embargoes on them. Stopped selling them oil and tin and other materials. All the time we have our own little concessions in China like all other Europeon nations and we get ours but keep the Japs out. Meanwhile we restrict their immigration to our country. The Japs think that Europeons and Americans are treating them like we do the Chinese- with contempt and as subjects. They want what we have- a share of the Asian pie. We object. Granted- they are more brutal in their tactics of colonization- but no less so than the Soviets who we had just signed a treaty of recogniztion with and who also want in China.

Then Japan finds itself with no oil, no coal, no raw materials and a US that is talking nice to the Soviets and blocking them from any access to the China market. They bomb Pearl Harbor. Granted- stupid on their part. But let's not say that it came out of the blue and for no reason.

[Paulus Invictus]

And then what, dolt?

[Burkeman1]

Kill Osama- bring the troops home- develp our own energy resources- oil, clean coal, and above all Nuclear- and let these Islamic freaks wither and die on the vine. Ironically- it is US oil cash that feeds them and sustains the very culture that produced a freak like Osama. Islam cannot stand up against the west without dollars. And we feed them what they need- cash. Time for America to become less dependant on these idiot drooling heretical nations. Islam is a cult. A cult sustained by us and our dependence on them. See how long they last when our dollars our not pouring in.

[Burkeman1]

Raimondo- don't you live in Cali- or your family is from their? If not for the War of 1848 you would be eating habenero peppers over mexican prairie dog chili and riding on the back of a pickup to Mississipi to pick cotton?

Sometimes one has to look at the greater good as defined in the bible. If we were true to the word of man's law then squatter rights would have been ignored and the US would resemble fuedal Europe. Or we would be the original 13 states for about 20 years until France or Britain overcame, exploited, or conquered the savage Indian nations to our west. I wonder how long we would have lasted. What about the Lousianna purchase? Raimondo- I agree with alot of what you say. But when you say things like 1776 and 1812 are the only wars you agree with then you make me look bad. You might as well say there should be no USA and no Stars and Stripes. I know alot of far right wingers belief that and hope for that as do many more left wingers. But I know you don't. The USA has it's faults. I wish it were not so far flung around the world as it is now. But all in all we are a force of good and have been. And you know it.

[CWOJackson]

Give the guy a break...the only newspaper that will regularly publish raimondo is Pravda. That isn't a joke either, do a on-line search. And we all know that Pravda would only print articles supportive of this nation.

[hinckley buzzard]

Japan finds itself with no oil, no coal, no raw materials...

Interesting...How come it took us 3 and a half years of all-out war to get to Okinawa? And two A-bombs to beat them?

Somehow I just can't feel as sorry for them as you do. But I bet you have some real tear-jerkers to tell about the Talibastards.

[Burkeman1]

Yeah that is interesting isn't it. Ask McCarthur. The War against the Japs took only 15% of our war effort- he constatnly complained about supplies. Once we declared war against Japan we geared up for war against Germany. Wonder why that was? Gee- I am sure you will have an answer.

If the US declared war only against Japan and Hitler was not so stupid as to decalre war against us- which we were already fighiting in the Atlantic with our navy and subs for over two years contrary to US law- then Japan would have been toast within a year and a half. With no nukes either.

LOng forgotten now. But US propaganda highlighted the effort against the Japs over the Germans. Why? Because the Germans had done nothing to us. The Japs had though. Even though most US soldeirs were in the Europeon theater of ops our media gave the pathetic number of troops in the Jap theater the highlight. Grow up. We were suckered. I am the Great Grandson of a WWI combat vet. He knew WWII was crap from beginning to end.

The English went to war to save Poland? They gave it to the Soviets for 40 years. Fight for democracy-? Crap! We were Stalin's girls for that war. Hitler's armies and generals sent many signals to us that they were willing to surrender or fight with us against Russia and Stalin and we said yes- then took them captive and then turned them over to Soviet forces to be killed or sent to death labor camps. Don't be a fool.

[Miss Antiwar]

Long live ANTIWAR.COM! Sewer hole, NOT!

[Miss Antiwar]

Oh really?? What about the Chronicle, CWO?

[CWOJackson]

The Chronicle? Are they a local communist paper?