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Willow Creek Church Invites Muslim to Preach to Saints- Bill Hybels "Islam Not Religion of Violence"
Crosswalk.com ^ | 10/20/01

Posted on 10/21/2001 5:43:47 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar

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To: KQQL; 11th Earl of Mar
We call you `the people of book.' We have all the prophets from the Bible," he said. That fact alone surprised many in the audience. "I didn't know they believed in Jesus," church member Elizabeth Perez, 60, of Zion said after the service. "I thought it was interesting how much we have in common."

This is not a Christian church..it is a "New Age" knock off

"come ye out from among them"

We need to pray that God lead them out of that place.

21 posted on 10/21/2001 6:34:00 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Hybel is speaking at a conference our church Monday evening, but I won't be there.

This comment concerns shows the ignorance of his congregation, and apparently Hybel himself: Judy Barrie, 30, of Mundelein said the interview "opened up doors to communicate and showed [Muslims are] people just like we are." That is the kind of impact Hybels had hoped for.

If he would read he his Bible he would see we aren't the same: 2 Cor 6:15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?

22 posted on 10/21/2001 6:36:49 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: RnMomof7
Muslims leaders love to say that Islam has all the prophets which are mentioned in the Bible. That is a lie. The Quran knows nothing of the prophecies of Isaiah, for example. Muslims have not idea of the prophecies of the suffering servant.
23 posted on 10/21/2001 6:43:55 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Hybels, Goebbels
24 posted on 10/21/2001 6:44:41 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
One thing I will agree with is that as followers of Christ we must bring the gospel to Muslims. www.AfghanBibles.com is just one example of such a ministry.

I have been trying for almost 20 years to get Christians to bring the gospel to their Muslim neighbors. Most followers of Christ have been asleep on this point.

25 posted on 10/21/2001 6:45:58 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Does anyone around here know Bill Hybels? Or anyone know someone who knows him? I want to talk to him and get at least half a chance that he will listen to me for a few minutes. I have almost 20 years of experience talking to Muslims about the teachings of the Bible. I think Bill Hybels needs to hear some of the things I've learned along the way.
26 posted on 10/21/2001 6:54:59 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: Registered
You'd think people that support Hybels and his ministry would wake up to this fraud. What a travesty.

Well, the Clinton appearance was a definitely "problematic" at best but this is outright lunacy.
I still like Contagious Christianity and How to Build a Contagious Church.

27 posted on 10/21/2001 6:55:09 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: JeepInMazar
Muslims leaders love to say that Islam has all the prophets which are mentioned in the Bible. That is a lie. The Quran knows nothing of the prophecies of Isaiah, for example. Muslims have not idea of the prophecies of the suffering servant.

Wolves in sheeps clothing...they end up in places like Willowcreek eating the sheep...with the Pastors permission......heck with his invitation

28 posted on 10/21/2001 7:03:29 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
They include dramas -- sometimes funny, sometimes not -- as a part of their service. As far as I know, they always have a sermon.
29 posted on 10/21/2001 7:08:09 PM PDT by the Wayne
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
This was a first-hand account posted acouple of weeks ago:

Muslim blames US at Chicago's Largest Church (BARF)
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Published: 10/06/01 Author: Dengar01
Posted on 10/6/01 6:16 PM Pacific by Dengar01

I just got home from church and I had to post this. I attended Willow Creek church which is north west of Chicago. It is the largest church in the area, it is a non-denominational Christian church, the main auditorium hold 10,000 people and was filled tonight. The topic of the 5:00 service tonight was the interview with a Muslim named Iama Fisal Hammounda, by Senior Pastor Bill Hybels. They will be having three more services between tonight and tomorrow, I pray to God they change their plans for the next services. I knew this was going to get ugly when the church showed a video on ethnic diversity. I looked around at the church filled to capacity with over 10,000 people and noticed several Muslims.

The inteview started and the man was introduced as a Egyptian who moved here in 1974. He complained that his wife was in Florida and couldn't come home due to the fact that she would be harassed. The goal of Pastor Hybel's interview was to prove that Islam is a peaceful religion, lets just say that he failed, miserabley.

Pastor Hybels did ask some very good questions which surprised me since I thought the Muslim might take the questions as offensive. A few questions statements stood out. The Muslim declared that Islam was peaceful and that the terrorists did not follow Islam, fine I guess. He continued that a "Jihad" had to do with attacking sin he made the poor analogy of declaring a jihad on eating candy.

Continuing Pastor Hybels asked him about martyrs along with the virgins and the streams of wine and the Muslim responded I pray for that to happen. He was truly innappropriate and this is when everything went downhill.

He declared that the terrorists in the US were bad but that the Palestinians were "freedom fighters". Immediately after saying that all the Muslims attending applauded. After the Muslims were jumping for joy with the Mr. Hammounda's innappropriate remarks, many people got up and walked out disgusted. I stayed to hear his next remarks which stunned me worse than his previous remarks.

He then stated that, "The US is responsible for terrorism"
That is when I walked out.

Fortunately for me to write this my sister and her husband stayed while I was complaining to several people at the Service Desk. The final statement which I was lucky enough to miss finished with Mr. Hammounda saying that Christians and Muslims can be friends, only on Muslims terms.

Yes you heard it the slime being spewed by the left is false. I heard it first hand from this man answering innappropriately while joking about a serious issue. I made the statement that this was unnacceptable for a church and should not be tolerated.

If you agree with me you can FReep the church at:
Willow Creek Community Church
67 E. Algonquin Road
South Barrington, IL 60010
(847) 765-5000
Fax: (847) 765-9222
General e-mail: info@willowcreek.org

Don't worry because the church had many people furious, about 200 people walked out including myself and many people were venting their frustration to people who work at the church. I will be calling the church tomorrow to let them know how I feel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Navigation: use the links below to view

30 posted on 10/21/2001 7:08:54 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
On the contrary, flinging unsubstantiable accusations of fraud are ignorant and spiteful.
31 posted on 10/21/2001 7:12:06 PM PDT by the Wayne
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BRINGING ISLAM, THE RELIGION

OF PEACE, TO AMERICA:


32 posted on 10/21/2001 7:14:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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Looks like a fatwa to me!
33 posted on 10/21/2001 7:23:42 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: RnMomof7
This is not a Christian church..it is a "New Age" knock off.

Your absolutely right on. New Age it is.

34 posted on 10/21/2001 7:25:49 PM PDT by DreamWeaver
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To: the808bass
I still like Contagious Christianity and How to Build a Contagious Church.

Hey base long time no see:>)

I have to tell you we dont agree here ! A rotten tree bears rotten fruit
Targeting and marketing and compromise sermons get lots of bodies down here

I am more of the mind to let God build HIS church

BTW my church is using similar stuff ..I am not happy!

35 posted on 10/21/2001 7:33:25 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Stupid is as stupid doe's.
36 posted on 10/21/2001 7:38:12 PM PDT by willyone
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To: the Wayne
New member since Oct 14, 2001 - With a bookmarked article regarding this very church, eh? Intellesting.... Vellly intellesting.
37 posted on 10/21/2001 7:40:13 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: RnMomof7
BTW my church is using similar stuff ..I am not happy!

Ditto, and Amen!

38 posted on 10/21/2001 7:43:21 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
This may sound goofy, but here it goes....

I've been to the Willow Creek church twice, both times with my wife. For those who don't reside in the Hoffman Estates, IL area, Willow Creek is a "new age", non-traditional church.

The first time I went I was quite uncomfortable for some reason--like someone was watching me. I didn't mention it to my wife, but it bothered me.

The second time we went the feeling was much, much worse. I felt that something extremely evil was there. It was a relief to get out.

I later mentioned these two events to my wife who got a frightened look on her face and explained how see was sitting there listening to the sermon (the second time we went) and that she suddenly saw a hideous "head" come flying at her and passed through her.

Since the event, I confessed to a couple of friends what had happened and they said they've heard similar stories from others. Yikes.

We won't be returning.

...and no, I haven't been drinking tonight.

39 posted on 10/21/2001 7:45:32 PM PDT by The Toad
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To: gusopol3
Just because a church " claims" to be Christian, by no means does it mean it is a Christian church. Do not be misled. The Willow Creek Church is a New Age Church. Wolves in sheeps clothing, " come out of her my people! "
40 posted on 10/21/2001 7:46:49 PM PDT by DreamWeaver
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