Posted on 10/19/2001 10:04:30 PM PDT by kattracks
First: Israel will prevail. The only thing keeping them from mopping the floor with the so-called "palestinians" is Judaeo-Christian decency.
Second: Israel is our ally, the "palestinians" are our enemy.
I said that we should not impose peace from without, not that we shouldn't ever aid an ally.
I don’t think any of the suicide bombers in NYC and DC were “Palestinians”. You are getting the issues mixed up.
They're Islamics (that false religion who has Allah as Satan) -- as that's what drives their hatred towards the U.S. and against the Jews and Israel. So, if they're [the non-existent] Palestinians, or Arabs or Afghanistan mujahadeen, or recruits of Osama bin Laden -- they're all the same as Islamics -- who believe in eliminating all Jews, destroying the state of Israel, killing Americans and destroying America.
Go find it yourself. It was a state inside the Ottoman Empire for many years. Then it was a colony of England.
It never -- even once (for one second) -- existed as a sovereign state. It was originally a label that the Romans put on the area of Israel as a punishment for Israel's rebellion against Rome (in their fight for independence).
It's as much a country as a lake is a country or a name of a hill is a country or a river is a country. The Romans destroyed Israel and labeled it that way.
It was never a colony of England. The entire region (more than Israel) was a protectorate under the League of Nations and England had supervision over it, until such time as a governing entity could be put into place. That governing entity was Israel (and a collection of other countries around it, too).
There was never a Palesine citizen, a Palestine embassy, a Palestine King or ruler or President or Prime Minister. There was never a Palestine Navy, Army, Air Force -- or even dog or camel patrol...
It's a totally non-existant country and non-existant people (as a nation). They are an invention of Islam propaganda, in the effort to destroy Israel.
And if President Bush moved in US troops to strictly enforce 242 & 338 on both parties? Would you support this as well?
The U.S. does not abide by U.N. resolutions (unless it suits it's own purposes). So, why should you expect anyone else to do so?
It's very clear that the U.S. is keeping the U.N. out of its way in doing what it's doing with the war on terrorism. The U.S. doesn't want the inane meddling of the U.N. to interfere with what it has to do. And you want that same type of meddling with others, huh?
That’s fine. Just keep in mind, we are not and should not be a colony of Israel, Africa, Mexico, Ireland, China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, England or any othercountry.
What are you going to do then, when the Messiah returns to Israel and set up His Kingdom and rules over you and the U.S. from His capital in Jerusalem? You will be a subject to Him and all the nations will be rules from Israel.
What will be your alternative, then?
Note, that God laughs at you and others like this --
Psalm 2
1 Why do the nations rage, And the people plot a
vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, And the
rulers take counsel together, Against the Lord and
against His Anointed, saying,
3 "Let us break Their bonds in pieces And cast away
Their cords from us."
4 He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The Lord
shall hold them in derision.
5 Then He shall speak to them in His wrath, And
distress them in His deep displeasure:
6 "Yet I have set My King On My holy hill of Zion."
7 "I will declare the decree: The Lord has said to
Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.
8 Ask of Me, and I will give You The nations for
Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth for Your
possession.
9 You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall
dash them to pieces like a potter's vessel.' "
10 Now therefore, be wise, O kings; Be instructed,
you judges of the earth.
11 Serve the Lord with fear, And rejoice with
trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, And you perish in
the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little.
Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.
It seems to me the Palestinians were offered a rather good deal by Barak, but they turned it down.
So how do you deal with the Palestinian problem after this?
We didn't need to. The "palestinians' do it for us in thought, word, and deed.
Why are you such a staunch apologist for the bloodthirsty maggots?
The UN Resolutions are moot, because the "palestinians" will never honestly acknowledge Israel's right to exist.
Israel is not a democracy like ours.
True. Israel is a Parliamentary Democracy, where the Executive Branch is not distinct from the Legislative.
America is a Constiutional Republic, with a Separation of Powers between the three branches, Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. And our Legislative Branch is Representative, not Parliamentary.
A man who calls others lice would not be in our Cabinet. He wants to deport Israeli citizens because he doesn't like their ethnic group. His being in the Cabinet shows that they don't share our values.
I don't think you've accurately represented Ze'evi's views here, but that's beside the point. In a Parliamentary Democracy, unless one party wins a solid majority of the legislature, they need a political coalition in order to form an Executive government. The price for bringing smaller parties into the coalition is often giving them a lesser cabinet position. This is what Sharon did when he made Ze'evi Minister of Tourism.
Why is it not the right time? Because it might offend our coalition partners? So what? They are not our allies and never will be. Israel is and always has been.
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