Posted on 10/18/2001 10:02:07 PM PDT by super175
You must have heard of those who were executed or put in prison for opposing the KMT.
The KMT still controls the politics, economy, media and military in Taiwan. The support for the KMT comes from the upper class of Taiwanese society, while the DDP's supporters are mainly lower-class people who don't have enough resources.
Historically the KMT and the CCP were brothers. I don't see any difference between today's CCP and Chiang's KMT. That's why Jiang said weeks ago that the CCP is the "loyal follower" of Sun's idea.
>>The notion of a KMT-CCP "confederation" which would rule the Mainland and Taiwan has been openly proposed.
Not only "confederation", some KMT people who used to be diehard anti-communist are now talking about a new KMT-CCP alliance. They are preparing to set up braches in the Mainland.
Where did you get this idea?
The era of KMT in China was totally different from KMT in Taiwan and totally different from KMT of today. It was in the plan of transferring political power to local people. The best example was Hsia, Lin Yong-Gung and Lee and they were not rich and powerful.
Well, Lee was a traitor to his party and it was a joke to Lee that he was kicked out by the KMT and most of KMT members are his fellow local Taiwaneses. If you know Min-Nan Yu you will be ashamed the words and phrases Lee uses in his speech. He was not a leader, he was a low-class "da lao chu" and BTW, he loves money. His wife tried to smuggled 500 million CASH into the US.
DPP was supported by the US so that KMT will not be in the way of US-China trade. Look at the broader picture and think. US wanted a stable Asia and KMT was one of the trouble maker and would not give up any chance for a re-take of China. You have to look at the Asia 25 years ago.
Most of your analysis are good but this one is off the course. Sorry!
Did you read Lee's book? He got involved in politics was an accident.
The First American Revolution succeed to a great extent because it actually had a lot of British support. The Second One hasn't been completed because the base concepts of the Founders are still relatively exotic to most Americans in practice. The French Revolution is perhaps the most fascinating of all because he revolved on itself in several permutations. Still, the French remained just as impossible now as they were before.
It is always best to go back and long at the long term nationalistic imperatives and give them more credit than superficial ideologies.
China will be a play in Afghanistan, though most likely a player in the background. The recent scene between Bush and North Korea is a clue. It looks to me to just be an excuse to let Chinese military hardware, perhaps produced in Korean factories, into afghanistan to do to us what we did to the Russians. What goes around comes around.
I heard some went to prison but not aware of people executed. I was totally brain-washed by the KMT and ignornant, not like those smart people provided you those secret information.
US imprisoned tens of thousands Japanese-Americans during the WWII. After the WTC attack, US detained and watched a lot of Middle-Eastern-Americans. Sir, it is a war. During a war people establish rules and laws to protect majority. Go study the wars between Taiwan and China from 1949 to 1965 then tell me what the policies should be.
BTW, I read an article over the net says Tibet was part of China for 700 years. Interesting!
Of course the KMT dictatorship was the right policy. Also go study the wars between the CCP and the US and the USSR from 1949 to NOW then tell me what the policies should be. Please also tell me the difference between the CCP and the KMT.
You are really something. CCP & US, USSR & US?
There was never an actual fight (war) between CCP & US or USSR & US and that is why we called them COLD WAR. Taiwan and CCP had actual wars and people got killed, especially in the early years after 1948. CCP has been trying to invade Taiwan since 1948 and still tries to today. KMT used to thinking about taking back mainland China for a long time. There were actual wars. During the Gang of Four era in China, Taiwan had a slightly chance to have troops landed in China.
You have not answered the Japanese-Americans's imprisonment and current Arabic-American detaintions. Yeah, it is different, we have TWO major parties instead of one.
There were mainly three types of CCP factions at the time: 1)intellectuals and academics who introduced Marxism to China and thought it would solve the problems in China. Most of them were French-educated students, including Zgou Enlai and Deng Xiaoping. They were impressed by the Russian Revolution led by Lenin. Also they knew the west civilization and democracy. 2)Soviet-trained communists who were sent to Russia by the CCP or the KMT, including Chiang's son. Those people were radical revolutionaries who took orders from Moscow and acted like Russian proxy. 3)native communists who were poor students, peasants or workers, including Mao. They got involved in the revolution mainly for their personal reasons, porverty, unemployment, hatred, or ambition. They were the most destructive forces and believed in nothing but violence. Before the CCP split from the KMT, many CCP members had important positions in the KMT. Zhou Enlai was the head of political department of KMT's military academy. Mao was the head of peasant movement committee of the KMT.
Ok, I can answer. It's different from what the KMT did in the past. The KMT put people in prison because it didn't want to share power with any other parties.
One of the ways to distinguish factions in the CCP is to look at their families or education background. Mao was from a middle peasant family in a rural villige and his wife, Jiang Qin, was brought up in a landlord's house where her mother worked as a housemaid. Zhou was from a bankrupt landlord family and educated in France and Japan. Deng was also French-educated and his father was a landlord. Liu Shaoqi's father-in-law was a big capitalist in Tianjing and his wife spoke fluent English and worked for the Americans in Beijing after WWII.
I believe the KMT has more connections in the US than the DPP has. Everytime when the US is talking about "Taiwan is our friend", it referrs to the KMT.
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