Posted on 10/16/2001 11:30:17 PM PDT by MadIvan
The present situation is entirely different. The goal is different, the means are different, and the outcome will be different. The filthy little rats responsible for NY & the Pentagon are going to get what's coming to them and that's the reason we're doing what we're doing. This time there's a good reason and whether anybody wants to be saved isn't the point. I want OBL and his pal's heads stuck on sticks on the front lawn of the White House so the world can see what happens to people that do what they do. No BS about saving the world for "democracy," simple retribution. If anybody gets "saved" in the process so be it. If not, I don't care.
This ain't Viet Nam, Viet Nam and Afghanistan have absolutely nothing to do with each other, and I wish people would stop bringing it up.
You and me both.
My point is that I don't need to see the bloody gore. I know what we are doing to them, and I will never forget what they have done to us.
My fear is that after the Gulf War when we watched it on the the news live, we are expecting more. We are not going to see the same thing this time around. We don't have Peter Arnet cowering under a bed holding onto a quivering Berni Shaw.
Will we have the "Luckiest man in Iraq" this time around? I doubt it. All we have for now anyway is the memory of 9/11, and the images from ground zero as they pull the bodies from the wreckage.
That should be enough.
Pro~Libertate!
Btttt. It goes like this:
(1) Sanitizing the conflict, i.e., it's about "just a few terrorists";
(2) Start to compromise and talk about including "moderate" Talibans in a new Afghanistan government;
(3) Weak-kneed responses to purported civilian casualties;
(4) Including and recognizing the sensibilities of Islamic terrorist states in your decision-making;
(5) Start talking about a Palestinian State (as a reward for terror);
(6) Talk about removing the Tiananmen Square sanctions against China as a "reward" for China's role in the bogus coalition against terorrism;
(7) Telling India how to conduct its affairs with Pakistan because it might jeopardize the blessed coalition (puke).
I'm too tired to continue.
No matter how few or how many of our young men go into and come out of the meatgrinder, as long as Congress refuses to declare war and then get out of the way so that the soldiers can fight, this will be another undeclared conflict like Vietnam which will provide all the opportunites of treason for fun and profit that Congress enjoyed during the last one.
The President mentioned some lessons we learned from Vietnam. I didn't hear him mention the one that really matters, though. The lesson that matters is that an undeclared war is a disaster. Every single one we've had inflicted on us by politicians has been a disaster.
We need to be ANGRY to win this war!
Damn straight! I have even been unable to locate such video on the internet. I am sure there are multiple sources.
The picture that got to me yesterday was one where the people were hanging out the windows, it was grainy, but you could make out one person holding out a little baby, trying to let him breathe... Devastating image..
The standard explanation for the former is respect for the families of the deceased. I'd suggest writing them suggesting that they show exactly the same respect for the relatives of any and all civilian casualties in Afghanistan, unless they want to be racist and colonialist.
right...and can you name them? Who are "they", the terorists? Hunting terrorists until further notice is not much of a "war" goal.
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