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[Invincibly Ignorant]

Wasn't this from the book "The Robe"? I remember the words but not the source.

Its a song. We're singing it in the choir for Easter. Now I don't need the book. I can just print off a copy of Dave's post and use it. :-)

[OLD REGGIE]

I wasn't aware that I had lain out any definitions. I said that Jesus gave Peter a threefold charge to tend to the flock. I said that Peter may have denied the Lord, but at least he didn't run away. I find this almost more noble, he risked his denials not being believed and suffering the same fate as his Master.

Where were the other apostles and isn't running away when your Master is in trouble a form of "denial"?

It is obvious you have never been in the military. Retreat to fight another day. Surrender to be useless to the cause.

[malakhi]

We're you there when they crucified my Lord? We're you there when they crucified my Lord? Oh Oh Oh. Sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble. We're you there when they crucified my Lord?

Wasn't John there at the crucifixion?

[SoothingDave]

Moreri (Roman Theologian): "To make war against the pope is to make war against God, seeing that the pope is God and God is the pope."

For instance, this is one of the "quotes" you provided that I think is either made up, ripped outof context, or poorly translated.

I am presently searching online for references to Moreri, but I can not seem to find a citation for where this alleged quote came. There are plenty of anti-Catholic sites that use it, but none can seem to give a source for it. Isn't that suspicious?

SD

[SoothingDave]

Wasn't John there at the crucifixion?

Indeed. I was trying to make a point, through song, that being a witness, even one who has to deny the Lord, to the events of the Passion is something more earthshaking and character-making than simply running away.

SD

[malakhi]

Wasn't this from the book "The Robe"? I remember the words but not the source.

Its an old spiritual.

Were you there when they crucified my Lord?

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Were you there when they crucified my Lord?
Were you there when they crucified my Lord?
Oh!
Sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.
Were you there when they crucified my Lord?

Were you there when they nailed him to the tree?
Were you there when they nailed him to the tree?
Oh!
Sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.
Were you there when they nailed him to the tree?

Were you there when they pierced him in the side?
Were you there when they pierced him in the side?
Oh!
Sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.
Were you there when they pierced him in the side?

Were you there when they laid him in the tomb?
Were you there when they laid him in the tomb?
Oh!
Sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.
Were you there when they laid him in the tomb?

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Source: African-American Spiritual

[trad_anglican]

Its a song. We're singing it in the choir for Easter.

I think it's an old spiritual. Are you singing it on Easter?

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I think it's an old spiritual. Are you singing it on Easter?

Go figure. More like a good friday song if you ask me. :-)

[SoothingDave]

I think it's an old spiritual. Are you singing it on Easter?

We usually sing it during Lent. It's more reflective. Easter is the time to break out the "Jesus Christ is Risen Today" joyous hymns! Sing that forbidden word again.

SD

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I think it's an old spiritual. Are you singing it on Easter?

My mistake. I just got the itinerary out. We are singing "Were you there" and "O Sacred Heart now wounded for Good Friday. "Christ the Lord is Risen Today" and Man of Sorrows for Easter.

[OLD REGGIE]

The site you linked to doesn't substantiate the quotes, especially the more salacious ones. And you know some Orthodox have a bit of a problem with the Pope. So unless the quotes can be shown from a source text....

So what? You don't feel it is necessary to substantiate your claims for such things as Papal Succession. I merely stated there are different statements from "Catholic" sources. So unless you can prove they are false........... This is the link I gave on #31912. What is missing except proof?

[SoothingDave]

What is missing except proof?

Indeed.

SD

[OLD REGGIE]

Its a song. We're singing it in the choir for Easter. Now I don't need the book. I can just print off a copy of Dave's post and use it. :-)

I know it's a song. I just wonder where it originated. I remember reading "The Robe" many years ago and, for some reason, believe it originated from that book.

[trad_anglican]

My mistake. I just got the itinerary out. We are singing "Were you there" and "O Sacred Heart now wounded for Good Friday. "Christ the Lord is Risen Today" and Man of Sorrows for Easter.

That makes sense. Our hymnal has it "O Sacred Head sore wounded" which we sing on Good Friday but I always thought would be a good hymn for the feast of the circumcision :^)

I'm a little suprised anything with "sacred heart" would make it into your repertoire.

[SoothingDave]

Naughty naughty. Go sit in the corner. :-)

SD

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I'm a little suprised anything with "sacred heart" would make it into your repertoire.

That is kind of strange. Perhaps it take awhile for these formerlly catholic music directors to come all the way home. :-)

[OLD REGGIE]

(Reg) What is missing except proof?

Indeed.

I didn't think a little thing like "proof" was important to you. After all, you rely on "legend" and unsubstantiated stories for your dogma.

[SoothingDave]

I didn't think a little thing like "proof" was important to you. After all, you rely on "legend" and unsubstantiated stories for your dogma.

What some call "legend" others call "passed down tradition." You got to have faith somewhere Reggie. Mine is that the folks from Peter to the third or forth Bishop didn't forget who the first Bishop of Rome was. There is a small area of confusion about the line of succession. That is all. That there was such a succession is not in doubt.

SD

[SoothingDave]

One should also point out that, to the skeptic, the entire Bible you rely on is legend and unsubstantiatied stories. There is an element of faith required.

SD

[trad_anglican]

Naughty naughty. Go sit in the corner.

mea culpa mea culpa mea maxima culpa. I couldn't resist.

How about this one for a wedding?

Turn back oh man, foreswear thy foolish ways.