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David Limbaugh: Toward Freedom From Religion
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| October 13, 2001
| David Limbaugh
Posted on 10/13/2001 9:18:45 AM PDT by Gritty
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posted on
10/13/2001 9:18:45 AM PDT
by
Gritty
To: Gritty
Let's call a spade a spade here. I'm quite supportive of the First Amendment's prohibition of state-
sponsored religions, but these cases don't even come close. I am an atheist, and I can mostly agree with this.
Of course, the problem would be moot if we had proper separation of School and State.
To: Storm Orphan
You mention that you are an atheist. It is my informal observation that there are a disproportionate number of atheists here, primarily libertarians. There definitely seem to be more atheists posting on FR than there are in everyday life.
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posted on
10/13/2001 9:30:52 AM PDT
by
Robert-J
To: Robert-J
You mention that you are an atheist. It is my informal observation that there are a disproportionate number of atheists here, primarily libertarians. There definitely seem to be more atheists posting on FR than there are in everyday life. I think there are more of us than you suspect in everyday life. Your sample is limited by
your circle of those willing to discuss such issues.
BTW I've met several atheist conservatives here. We come in all flavors.
To: Robert-J
I also think it is easier to discuss controversial beliefs in the semi-anonomous realm of an online forum. I am an atheist, but I am not bothered by prayer in schools. I am bothered by the government being involved in schools. I also don't much care that our coins say "In God We Trust". I have some deeply religious folks that work for me. They are my best employees.
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posted on
10/13/2001 9:47:30 AM PDT
by
shempy
To: shempy
I was meeting with a council of a big Presby Church in Dallas trying to get their business
for some brochure and publicity work.
During the meeting, the chairman asked me casually - "So where do you and your wife go to church?"
I answered "Oh, we live in Plano (a suburb of Dallas)" and he didn't pursue it.
It seemed the politick thing to do, given the circumstances. I'm the kind who won't hesistate to
say I'm an atheist, but there's sometimes reason to withhold comment. (We got the contract.)
To: Gritty
I am uncomfortable telling God what to do, i.e. God Bless America.
However if we are tasking God, shouldn't we be asking for more, like God Bless America and kill bin Laden?
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posted on
10/13/2001 9:56:17 AM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes
I am uncomfortable telling God what to do, i.e. God Bless America. I always considered this phrase as asking, not telling. However, I will admit Mr. Berlin left out the "Please".
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posted on
10/13/2001 10:33:05 AM PDT
by
Gritty
To: Gritty
This is one of the best I have yet to read following Sept. 11, 2001. It was forwarded to me, but I don't know who wrote it. Subject: Where was God on Sept. 11 ? Many of us have heard that question "Where was your GOD when the World Trade Center and the Pentagon was attacked?" Well, I know where my GOD was the morning of September 11, 2001, and He was very busy! He was trying to discourage anyone from taking these flights. Those four flights together held over 1000 passengers and there were only 266 aboard. He was on 4 commercial flights giving terrified passengers the ability to stay calm. Not one of the family members who were called by a loved one on one of the high-jacked planes said that passengers were screaming in the background. On one of the flights he was giving strength to passengers to try to overtake the highjackers. He was busy trying to create obstacles for employees at the World Trade Center. After all, only around 20,000 were at the towers when the first jet hit. Since the buildings held over 50,000 workers, this was a Miracle in itself. How many of the people who were employed at the World Trade Center told the media that they were late for work or they had traffic delays. He was holding up 2-110 story buildings so that 2/3 of the workers could get out. I was so amazed that the top of the towers didn't topple when the jets impacted. And when they did fall, they fell inward. GOD didn't allow them to topple over, as many more lives would have been lost. And when the buildings went down, my GOD picked up almost children and carried them home with him. Reassuring his frightened children that the worst was over and the best was yet to come. He sat down and cried that 19 of his children could have some much hate in their hearts. That they didn't choose him, but another god that doesn't exist, and now they are lost forever. He sent his children that are best trained for this disaster and had them save the few that were still alive, but unable to help themselves. And then sent many others to help in anyway they were needed. He still isn't finished though, he held the loved ones that were left behind in his arms. He comforts them daily. His other children are given the strength to reach out to them and help them in any way they can. And I believe he will continue to help us in what is to come. He will give the people in charge of this great nation the strength and the wisdom to do the right thing. He would never leave us in our time of need. So when anyone asks, "Where was your GOD on September 11", you can say "everywhere"! And yes, although this is without a doubt the worst thing I have seen in my life, I see God's miracles in every bit of it. I keep praying for those who don't believe in GOD, every chance I have. I can't imagine going through such a difficult time and not believing in GOD. Life would be hopeless.
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posted on
10/13/2001 12:33:59 PM PDT
by
Deb4U
To: Deb4U
How many of the people who were employed at the World Trade Center told the media that they were late for work or they had traffic delays. In the case of a brother of mine who had an office on the 65th floor - he took that week off to be with his daughter. There is at least one similar other case I know of. I'm sure there are many more.
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posted on
10/13/2001 1:13:18 PM PDT
by
Gritty
To: Deb4U; Gritty
"Our cause is just. Our union is perfect ... We gratefully acknowledge, as signal instances of the divine favor toward us, that His providence would not permit us to be called into this severe controversy until we were grown up to our present strength ...."
To: Robert-J
We will set all them up the gospel: sin has no chance to survive all your bases belong to God make your time.
To: Robert-J
what, Satan set up us the hell?... Jesus set up us the heaven?... sin has no chance to survive all your base belong to God make your eternity!...
To: Storm Orphan
I think there are more of us than you suspect in everyday life.No, babes, they were just taught by the politically correct that being religios was not cool during the 90s.
On Easter Sunday of this year, a close relative left me a voice mail message, to wit: "I'm just calling to wish you a Happy Easter. I don't do Easter--it's not my style." Cool, huh?
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posted on
10/13/2001 4:29:25 PM PDT
by
yikes
To: yikes
No, babes, they were just taught by the politically correct that being religios was not cool during the 90s. My conclusion that the supernatural does not exist has nothing to do with "fads."
It is the culmination of a deliberative and thoughtful consideration of all
available evidence taken over a long period of time.
Perhaps your reasons for your belief system is based on something so transient.
Don't project your shortcomings on others.
Babe.
To: Deb4U
That's interesting: the planes took off with only half of their capacity and a lot of people were late to work. Maybe we could use this correlation to determine whether there is going to happen something horrible or not in future.
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posted on
10/13/2001 5:36:56 PM PDT
by
BMCDA
To: Storm Orphan
"Of course, the problem would be moot if we had proper separation of School and State." I almost hate to admit this, but I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one, Storm.
This must certainly prove that there is a God in heaven.
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posted on
10/13/2001 6:52:51 PM PDT
by
A2J
To: JHavard; Havoc; OLD REGGIE; Iowegian; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; the808bass; is_is...
A reading Bump
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posted on
10/13/2001 6:57:35 PM PDT
by
RnMomof7
To: Gritty
"Our cause is just. Our union is perfect ... We gratefully acknowledge, as signal instances of the divine favor toward us, that His providence would not permit us to be called into this severe controversy until we were grown up to our present strength ... we most solemnly, before God and the world ... exerting the utmost energy of those powers which our beneficent Creator has bestowed upon us. ... Amen
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posted on
10/13/2001 6:59:31 PM PDT
by
RnMomof7
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