No holy war here

MSNBC ^ | 10/11/2001 | Michael Moran

[Utah Girl]

ping

[ancient_geezer]

BTTT

Hits it out of the park.

[demnomo]

Fantastic article!!!

Cheers.

[Utah Girl]

Isn't it though? The scripture "by their fruits, ye shall know them" kept running through my mind as I read this.

[SubSailor]

"Is the United States fighting a war against Islam? If it were, you’d know it by now."

Excellent article. I thought the above quote was the best.

[KirklandJunction]

You do come up with really good posts!
This is one of the bests I've seen here in a long long time.
...makes it worthwhile putting up with some of the..........
Sure hope your screen name is accurate so I can say:
Thanks neighbor lady!"
kj
Arizona

[Utah Girl]

Thanks back, neighbor! I do live in Utah, proudly so.

[KirklandJunction]

"....bests......"?

You'd think by now I'd know how to type. Must be my cooking.

[The_Republican]

Maybe lack of desire for having inter-civilazational war, and annihilation of one civilzation, are due to the knowledge that such a war would require complete erradication of at least billion people. Most people do not seem to possess stomach for that kind of effort.

[gcruse]

 It is that point at which America, generally reluctant
to fight, becomes the most dangerous nation on the planet.

I like that.

 You’ll need more than Allah on your
side if the engineers of the Chechen
war ever take charge of the war on
terrorism.

Ruthless, swift, deadly infiltration,
assassination and familicide.  Sigh.
It may be the only way to win.

Thanks for posting a great article,
Utah Girl.

[Cold Heat]

Gonna bookmark this,Thanks for the post.Unfortunately from the Islamic perspective this is a holy war. I don't think we will ever cease denying that feeling but what good are the denials doing. If the muslims would only instruct their followers in the true history of the U.S., this war action may not have been necessary. But that would be common sense and Islam is common sense deficiant in all categories.

[ex-snook]

"British bombers incinerated as many as 50,000 people in a single night in Dresden in 1945. American bombers bettered them later that year, killing up to 100,000 in the fire- bombings of Tokyo. Hiroshima and Nagasaki speak for themselves. Yet these were acts taken against enemies that struck first, years into wars that even today stand as warnings to us about the importance of never letting fanatics gain the upper hand again. "

I think people might forget that we were wearing a NATO armband in Kosovo and a UN beret in Iraq when people consider how the bombing got started. Really the UN should have been targeted.(/sarcasm) I think what happened in WW II was correct but we need not walk around with an innoncent look on our face in complete denial.

[mercy]

Yes yes yes it's a wonderful article but no one in the Muslim 'street' is going to read it and they wouldn't give two unburned straws from the last effigy if they did. Face it folks we have an ocean of ignorant fanatics bent on our destruction. A couple million of the eight million Moslems now living in the US are probably either nearly as whacked as the average MID East fanatic or soon will be.

Either we deport all non citizen Mid Easterners now or we let them kill us almost at will. It IS that simple.

[ex-snook]

"British bombers incinerated as many as 50,000 people in a single night in Dresden in 1945. American bombers bettered them later that year, killing up to 100,000 in the fire- bombings of Tokyo. Hiroshima and Nagasaki speak for themselves. Yet these were acts taken against enemies that struck first, years into wars that even today stand as warnings to us about the importance of never letting fanatics gain the upper hand again. "

I think people might forget that we were wearing a NATO armband in Kosovo and a UN beret in Iraq when people consider how the bombing got started. Really the UN should have been targeted.(/sarcasm)

I think what happened in WW II was correct but we need not walk around with an innoncent look on our face in complete denial and rationalize today.

[michigander]

"Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."

[El Gato]

Or, more recently, the people of Hanoi?

Perpetuating the leftist lie that we "carpet bombed" Hanoi, deliberately targeted Hosptials etc, etc, etc. We did bomb the shit out of targets in and near Hanoi, too little and too late, but we never tried to destroy the city, or even damage most of it much. Targets were things such as the railyards, POL storage facilities, munitions dumps, and so forth. Did they kill residents of the city, sure, but they were not the targets. If they had been, Hanoi would have gotten the same treatment that Toyko had gotten in WW-II, or maybe even that Hiroshima and Nagasaki got. It didn't, but in a way my comments are actually supportive of the basic thesis, that Americans, while having the capability to make "holy war", rarely do so.

OTOH, the times they are a changing.

[FreeYourMind]

Great article.

[PogySailor]

BTTT!

Great post!

[Cicero]

It's on the mark. But we need to gear up Voice of America and get the word out to the Muslims of the world. At the moment, most of them are only hearing propaganda from the other side, and that's not a healthy state of affairs.

Shovel the clinonoids and the wimps out of VOA and return it to its original purpose: undermining the enemy's lies with news and opinions from our side.