China and the Americans, a love-hate affair (good read)

AT ^ | Yu Shicun, Editor of Strategy and Management, Beijing

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[BlackJack]

Good Read, Thanks

[super175]

bump it around... it is very good and for the most part, spot on the money.

[super175]

Those who accuse the US of being obsessed with a Cold War mindset should stand in the other side's shoes and reflect, only to find that it might be they who are stubbornly clinging to a Cold War mindset. It is true that some Americans married some young and beautiful Chinese girls and they have also gone to Africa to interfere in other's affairs, but are Beijingese and Shanghainese good enough to marry girls from Guizhou? Have the Chinese put in a word for the discriminated overseas Chinese in Malaysia and Indonesia? Have they ever grunted at the lack of respect for their own life in their own country? In a disorderly international society, it is better to have America, and there is no one to blame for America's selfish motives. Indeed the US is thinking about its own national interests, but it means no harm to the feelings of the people in any nation and what it is doing may well improve the people's living standard in all countries.

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[Robert Lomax]

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[tallhappy]

This was somewhat interesting, at first.

Became long boring and tiresome.

Most of all a bunch of hooey.

The author thinks China is some sort of democratic free country or something. That's his biggest problem.

Also, anyone talking about the "humiliations" seriously is an idiot.

Overall a failure of an article, I think.

[FreepTibet]

Don't be so quick to dismiss the whole idea of 'humiliation'--it's drilled into children here at a very young age: the Opium War, buring of the Summer Palace, Boxer Rebellion, etc. Just beacuse you think its silly (so do I) doesn't mean the Chinese don't take it very seriously.

[super175]

What is worse, the economy has not brought good days, especially has not brought democracy and freedom. Though the influence of Marxism has been sharply reduced, economic determinism still prevails and exercises influences on people's thoughts, and resultingly they will lay blame on the world once they are disappointed.

long, yes, very long, but needs a careful reading to catch the whole picture.

The moral of the story? To those Chinese who don't like America, chill out. America ain't so bad, and we ain't the boogey man...

The guy is writing about the predominant Chinese view in a descriptive way, not an endorsement way.

Indeed the US is thinking about its own national interests, but it means no harm to the feelings of the people in any nation and what it is doing may well improve the people's living standard in all countries.

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What outsiders need to understand is that China is a country whose power is monopolized by one party; the Chinese government cannot represent the interests of the whole Chinese people; the actions of the Chinese government are uncertain and cannot be trusted.

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Then how does it come that the so-called nationalists have emerged in recent years in China? Strictly speaking, they are not nationalists but egotists who have no long-range notions, but only feel that the banner of nationalism is profitable for power and money.

I think it is good... once you've taken 1.5 hours to carefully read the whole thing...

[RightWhale]

From what little I know the article seems reasonably accurate.

[super175]

Humiliations and drilling that into the heads of the people was a way to cause a revolution. I think that the interpretations of what went on was 'for the sole purpose to humilate China' is a fallacy to enrage the public into supporting the CCP.

It is in the vocab, for sure though...

[super175]

Not to say that the sales of Opium was a good thing... but it was not as the Communists put it.

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I think the talk of 'humilations' is just another tool to cause a popular revolution in support of the CCP back in the 1940s...

[super175]

I think it is very good and very accurate as to the many mindsets that are in China. It also encourages many Chinese not to demonize the USA.

[Cold Heat]

I find the Chinese agravating and arrogant. The same thing they think of the U.S. Recently I have found their actions threatening and inflamatory. I am not likely to change my mind anytime soon.