What is Treason?

Constitution of the United States of America ^ | October 6, 2001 | WIMom

[WIMom]

Below is the 1st amendment for clarification regarding the use of free speech.

Amendment I to the Constitution

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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[Lexington Green]

Jane Fonda - GUILTY

[sweetliberty]

Thanks for the post. Does the name "Bill Clinton" come to mind?

[Slyfox]

Hillary Rodham.

[Stefan Stackhouse]

Since the Civil war and even more so the restoration, treason in the US has virtually no legal precedents with any validity.

Yes, but the Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally precedents are highly significant. Here we have a case of American citizens who were not saboteurs, who did not actually engage in armed conflict against the US or its military forces, and who did not engage in espionage. All they did was talk and express their opinions in the media -- just like the seditious leftists are doing.

The leftist domestic enemies of this country are steeped through and through with sedition. As this posting indicates, sedition is a sub-set of treason. The First Amendment does not establish an absolute right of sedition, and the legal precedents mentioned above do establish that sedition is a criminal act punishable by law.

It is time that we start calling things by their proper name, and maybe start prosecuting criminals who commit crimes.

[Roebucks]

Giving them aid and comfort. Hmmm, well that hangs pretty much most politicans right there. Perhaps public hangings or execution of politicians would be a good thing to bring back

[WIMom]

Thanks. If you read the links I included about Aaron Burr, et al, their crimes do not even come close to our <gag>ex-president</ gag >. There is a section in the constitution regarding congress and presidents for treason. I didn't post that, because I felt we are dealing with a different type of person here.

[WIMom]

Yes! You really read the material, thank you. It's prevalent in newspapers, TV, radio, schools and the internet.

[Grassontop]

Al Gore giving the Russians our military weapons and in turn Russia selling them to other nations come to mind, overheard in a Congressional Meeting on C-Span! Thats treason, in my books! Of course, that is before Putin became Russias President.

[ChemistCat]

People who dilute the meaning of the word "treason" worry me. I was accused of treason last night for saying that flag-burning, like flag-waving and flag-wearing, is protected conduct under the First Amendment (if done reasonably safely so that no one is actually physically endangered.)

I've also seen the word "traitor" used as a synonym for Democrat or any even mildly liberal persons. Myself, I think the word ought to be reserved for those who KNOWINGLY commit deliberate ACTS that actually threaten the safety of this nation. (The word "knowingly" ought to let most Democrats off the hook--except the ones who know better.) Maybe nobody was a traitor for voting for Clinton. Maybe Senators who voted not to convict him were.

[Grassontop]

Maybe Senators who voted not to convict him were.

Ain't that the truth!

[gatex]

"People who dilute the meaning of the word "treason" worry me"

Good point---look how Congress has diluted "interstate commerce."

[exnavy]

BILL CLINTON

[WIMom]

This is my country. I love it and will do whatever is necessary to defend our liberty and freedom. The United States might have it's political faults, but generally, (last 8 years are an exception) we try to do right.

For all those that hate the United States and are citizens, where is your alliegance and to name one, JUST ONE, better country in the world.

[HENRYADAMS]

Agreed, hanging is best-possibly drowning. However,a good whipping followed by tar and feathers at a minimum.

The politician in order that they may eat, drink, copulate and snore-at our expense-have led us into this mess. Politicians have loaded our country with Third World types, who hate and despise us. The Third World types have now bitten and the political B*stards say "Toleration". They say with the left hand we will bomb and with the right hand drop food-AT THE SAME TIME!

[harrowup]

Good point---look how Congress has diluted "interstate commerce."

Don't want to change the subject so let's not go there. If you believe there are interpretations of the US Constitution and that Congress has duties how is it possible for them to dilute the IC Clause? If they can hang someone for treason, they should be able to charge for the use of highways, biways, seaways and flyways

[WIMom]

Right now, people can burn the flag in protest. I think that is horrible, but that is my opinion. Our flag stands for our country and constitution, liberty and freedom.

I put this information together to hopefully let others know what treason is. Because you and I may differ on opinions does not mean one or the other is a traitor. A traitor is one who commits treason, and treason is the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance.

[Roebucks]

I love this country as much as you. But, you would have to agree that corruption in the last 25 years is pretty much unequaled in our history.

Look at the number of laws, directives and grants since 1960 that are in direct opposition to federalism. This is nothing more than fraud, abuse of power and corruption and it exists in BOTH parties today more than ever.

I am a loyal republican, but I am not blind and I'm not stupid. It's true that the republicans have done more since Nixon to roll back many of the abuses to federalism, while the dims have done nothing.

But, the pubbies turn their heads time after time including most of Slick Willie's little schemes. And, when they don't turn their heads, they're gutless to do anything about it.

[monkeywrench]

"...attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance." Too bad "misplacing" or "losing" briefcases and laptops full of classified material isn't considered an 'overt' act. but a "mistake". Too bad "reinventing government" isn't the same as over throwing it. Too bad we let the left high jack the traditional meaning of words and let them replace them with nothing.