Posted on 10/02/2001 8:54:10 AM PDT by konijn
We are going to see an oil embargo within the year I think.
Before getting too judgmental about this "reformer," I suggest looking up the punishments in vogue in much of Christendom at the time, even in the "advanced countries."
The Spanish Inquisition was burning heretics, and witches were being burned in Scotland.
In England, starving children were hanged for stealing a loaf of bread.
In New York City, a teenage girl girl was hanged for stealing the shoe buckles of another girl.
The true scandal is that the Saudi regime hasn't moved on from this period.
I note that the author doesn't have much to say about what we should do about this regime.
Islam does not get a pass just because the Christian world's behavior 500 years ago. [I know you know this:)]
I would like nothing better than to be free of these flakey MidEast despots and dictators.
How we can win a war against a billion or more people is an interesting question however. Though it must be fought. And the fight is truly with this pathetic excuse for a religion whose Koran is concocted froom Mohammed's trash not even written.
Fundamentalists being directed by the demon of bloodlust will chastise and sanitize Islam, wrenching Islamic people out of the modern world, back into a feudal state reminiscent of the 600AD world in which Mohammed arose to become the Prophet of Islam. al Saud family tried to bring the Moslem peoples of Saudi Arabia into modernization, eventually, but the temptation to revert to simplicity is inherent in fundamentalist Islam. So be it, but if we leave wholly, we must lay waste to vast societal holds on biological and chemical weapons as we leave the area of the Middle East to deal with their own demons; we cannot afford to leave madmen holding weapons of mass destruction for they will end the world rather than allow modernity to sully their 'faith'.
I suspect one of the big problems is that Islamists have been deluded by the oil wealth in some of their countries. If this oil didn't exist, they wouldn't have to compete by actually producing things, which they cannot do and stick with an Islamist society. Their ability to gather wealth by selling the oil they coicidentally are sitting on has obscured this basic fact.
If they truly succeed in igniting a war between Islam and the West - their stated goal - they will discover that their oil wealth has existed only due to the forebearance of the West. When push comes to shove, their oil-bearing territory can be taken from them by military force, as has always happened before in history when weak countries are in control of valuable resources.
The true irony is that the rules of the Western civilization they are attacking are the only thing protecting them from becoming completely irrelevant.
Replace "wouldn't" with "would."
I am still of the belief that this war will be eventually the USA against all Islam. I agree we should try to limit it to the terrorists but I am decidely not convinced that this will be possible.
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
This is scary. Very scary.
From this source.....
Unfortunately, the Council on Foreign Relations is not the only group proposing an end to the sovereignty of the United States. In 1973, The Trilateral Commission was founded to work for the same goal: a one-world government.
The Trilateral Commission's roots stem from the book, "Between Two Ages", written by Zbigniew Brzezinski in 1970. In this book, Brzezinski praised Marxism, thought of the United States as obsolete, and praised the formation of a one-world government. His thinking closely parallels that of CFR founder Edward Mandell house.
On page 72, Brzezinski writes: "Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief."
On page 83, he states: "Marxism disseminated on the popular level in the form of Communism, represented a major advance in man's ability to conceptualize his relationship to his world."
On page 123, we find: "Marxism supplied the best available insight into contemporary reality."
What Mr. Brzezinski fails to tell his readers is that approximately 100 million human beings have been murdered under Marxism "in the form of Communism" just in this Twentieth Century. It has enslaved a billion more, and has been responsible for those who live in Communist-dominated countries. There is nothing like being brainwashed!
Zbigniew Brzezinski's "Between Two Ages" was published in 1970 while he was a professor in New York City. David Rockefeller read the book and, in 1973, launched the new Trilateral Commission, whose purposes include linking North America, Western Europe, and Japan "in their economic relations, their political and defense relations, their relations with developing countries, and their relations with Communist countries."
As Newell writes: "The original literature of The Trilateral Commission also states, exactly as Brzezinski's book had proposed, that the more advanced Communist States could become partners in the alliance leading to world government. In short, David Rockefeller implemented Brzezinski's proposal."
Rockefeller appointed Zbigniew Brzezinski to be the Director of The Trilateral Commission.
In 1973, Jimmy Carter became a student of Brzezinski, and a founding member of the Trilateral Commission.
On March 21, 1978, "The New York Times" featured an article about Zbigniew Brzezinski's close relationship with the President. In part, it reads: "The two men met for the first time four years ago when mr. Brzezinski was executive director of The Trilateral Commission… and had the foresight to ask the then obscure former Governor of Georgia to join its distinguished ranks. Their initial teacher-student relationship blossomed during the campaign, and appears to have grown closer still."
How can we best keep the various phases of war manageable in the number of enemies taken on at any one point?
Just how many countries can we get to rally around us (or at least against them) when the BIG balloon goes up?
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