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Naval Institute: Globalization Is Tested (BARF ALERT!)
U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings ^ | Octgober 1, 2001 | Thomas P.M. Barnett

Posted on 10/01/2001 11:33:31 AM PDT by Paul Ross

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The SCUM will out. This guy needs firing very badly.
1 posted on 10/01/2001 11:33:31 AM PDT by Paul Ross
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It is very disturbing to me to find that we have apologists for globalization in our military; one would hope it would be the last bastion of defenders of our sovereignty.

If pro-globalization forces think that they can spin these attacks as an argument for further globalization, I think they are in for a big surprise.

2 posted on 10/01/2001 11:43:35 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: Paul Ross
Scary stuff. The Navy was also in the forefront of our colonialist period in the Philippines and the Caribbean.

Up to a point, I wouldn't condemn Barnett -- it is hard to separate out effective defense from empire -- but here, I think he oversteps the boundary between the two.

3 posted on 10/01/2001 11:59:38 AM PDT by x
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Ah yes - if he disagrees with me he should be fired!

I've never been so surprised to see (BARF Alert) attached to an article as I am here. What part of Barnett's argument is so despicable? Globalization isn't coming, it's here. The huge drop in markets around the world because of Sept. 11 should be an indication of that.

His only controversial statement, as far as I can tell, is our "inevitable" position as global policeman. He doesn't articulate how that may be manifested, so I don't see how you can hang him out to dry for that.

4 posted on 10/01/2001 12:17:06 PM PDT by Egregious Philbin
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To: Egregious Philbin
This article contains admissions and assertions that are pretty earth-shaking, if one thought that our government and institutions would limit or deflect the impact of globalization. In a sense those institutions are no longer "ours" -- if they ever were "ours" -- rather they are the property of the world market, the global community or the ecumene.

The article may be run-of-the-mill for you, but surely for some people this will come as a major surprise.

While fear and dislike of government may be excessive in some quarters, if the government doesn't in some sense "belong to" the "American people" and isn't "accountable to" them, great and deep distrust of government is justified, and may be the only sensible alternative.

What are we to make of GWB's talk of American unilateralism or sovereignty in the last election? Was that so much blarney? I suspect it was, and more to the point, the author of this piece says as much.

Those who might risk death for their country and its freedoms may take a much dimmer view of dying for globalization and the world market.

What would happen if this article received wider circulation? It might influence people's attitudes towards the regime.

But maybe you are right. Certainly, we'd have seen more of a response to this if people were really opposed to globalization or surprised that our government and public and private institutions are its prime promoters.

5 posted on 10/01/2001 9:28:31 PM PDT by x
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... but ... where does he get off calling the terrorists an anti-globalization group? Bin Laden is the closest theing the world has seen to Ernst Stavro Blofeld, Dr. No or some other Bond villain ...
6 posted on 10/01/2001 9:48:43 PM PDT by x
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To: Egregious Philbin
I think you have to reassess your position, the author goes way beyond the one thing you objected to--saying we are the global cop, but that we must be on the 'beat' not for our interests, but globalist ones. And then he contends, ipso facto, we defend "American" interests. Oh really? I beg to differ. The two are NOT synonymous as tries to argue. This is illustrative of IMMENSELY fuzzy liberal logic at work. And his attack on GWB's foreign policy is an instructive one, revealing a profound disconnect from ANY of the normal observance of duty, and honor, of a constitutionally-oathe driven officer of our military:

Until September, the Bush administration clearly focused national security strategy on Asia in general and against China in particular. This was a huge mistake in the making, but the danger has not yet passed. As the United States pursues this war against international terrorism, we must be aware that the West and Asia can either come together or be driven apart by events in the Middle East. Remember this: as far as globalization is concerned, China is not the problem; it is the prize.

China is unilaterally draining US capital as it becomes our defacto off-site manufacturing base. China wishes to become the principal super-power, and the ruling communist party leadership intends to supplant U.S.'hegemony'. To the extent there is 'globalist' enhancement of China's position it is potentially a serious challenge to our own nation's position, and a long-term security threat. Not to mention the short-term threat to our loyal and helpful ally, Taiwan. Or the continuing massive espionage operation by China, against our national security assets, our national science labs and the like...all extremely grave issues which don't even appear on this guy's radar.

The Chinese are even now, STILL aiding and abetting terrorist regimes with arms sales (i.e., Iraq), and nuclear proliferation (Pakistan). This guy mischaracterizes the Chinese 'prize'. Hence, I assume he is either a panda-hugger, or a formerly Soviet mole. And any such, in OUR Naval War College needs firing. Turn-coats and enemies of the U.S. Constitution need not apply to be in the U.S. Navy, and definitely should not be on OUR payroll.

7 posted on 10/04/2001 9:40:49 AM PDT by Paul Ross
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While fear and dislike of government may be excessive in some quarters,

E.g., such rabble and nut-jobs as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Thomas Paine, Paul Revere, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton and Ronald Reagan, eh?

if the government doesn't in some sense "belong to" the "American people" and isn't "accountable to" them, great and deep distrust of government is justified, and may be the only sensible alternative.

Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address put it best describing the whole relationship of government and people in America's experiment in Self-Governance, when he said that "Government of the people, by the people, and for the people, should not perish from the earth." I don't dispute your point, just that it in fact seems to be rather half-hearted and equivocal. "May be the only sensible alternative."??? How about domestic revolt (instead of mere 'distrust'), if compelled by tyranny? Tyrants whose sole opposition is composed of 'distrust' among their slaves have nothing to fear. Citizens who defend liberty, and Constitutionally-limited government (so crafted as to restrain government intrusions on said liberty) are what tyrants would fear. Lately, tyrant Hitlery has been equating american dissent to her train of illegalities and governmental abuses as being like Osama Bin Laden. This pox on humanity will be in the Senate 6 more years. What a travesty.

8 posted on 10/04/2001 9:55:48 AM PDT by Paul Ross
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Tragedy and Dope

Like Quigley, this innocent lays out the agenda in all its denominational splendor.

"First, we need to expand dramatically the dialogue between Wall Street and the Pentagon regarding how globalization changes our definitions of national security. Over the past several years, the Naval War College has collaborated with the broker-dealer firm Cantor Fitzgerald in conducting a series of Economic Security Exercises examining scenarios such as a terrorist strike against Wall Street, the Year 2000 Problem, and Asia?s future energy needs."

The Military-Industrial Complex surely cannot protect even its own. Those who do not abide their oaths to preserve and protect the Constitution, and the citizens of the United States, first and foremost, are traitors. Our first line of defense must be to de-weed them from positions of influence.

Admiral Crowe, and his brethren, were and are socialist. They intentionally socially engineered intelligence into dysfunction. They cynically sell-out to the highest bidder; money doesn't talk, it screams.

9 posted on 10/04/2001 10:21:45 AM PDT by telos
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To: LSJohn, rdavis84
Scary.
10 posted on 10/04/2001 1:18:53 PM PDT by independentmind
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To: independentmind
The Polarization Continues. And we didn't get to 'vote' on it!
11 posted on 10/04/2001 1:28:36 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: telos
"First, we need to expand dramatically the dialogue between Wall Street and the Pentagon regarding how globalization changes our definitions of national security"

That has been "expanding" for many years now. Ike knew it. What's this yahoo want, a Joint Office Bldg.? Maybe it could be shaped like a 'pentagram'.

12 posted on 10/04/2001 1:43:31 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: independentmind, rdavis84, roughrider, BlueDogDemo, SKYDRIFTER
Most people would read this and say, "Yeah, I see what he means" because they think of globilization as an economic phenomenon, not a political/cultural one.

I'm actually glad to see this kind of thinking from such a source getting a small public airing, as it will point out to some few individuals that the "paranoia" about the NWO has more basis in fact than they previously supposed.

13 posted on 10/04/2001 2:00:43 PM PDT by LSJohn
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To: Judge Parker; rdavis84; roughrider; BlueDogDemo; SKYDRIFTER; golitely; FormerLurker; Askel5; rwz
D#&*n semi-colons!

fyi

14 posted on 10/04/2001 2:03:51 PM PDT by LSJohn
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"D#&*n semi-colons!"

As Usual, I ignor new-fangled thangs. The Old Comma works just Fine, best I can tell.

At least your flag to me worked on Self Search :-)

15 posted on 10/04/2001 2:40:38 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Paul Ross, independentmind, LSJohn
Timely ------

No Room for Failure - Except in Brief Presidential Slip

Published: Oct 4, 2001

WASHINGTON (AP) - Clearly, President Bush didn't mean it.

Winding up a speech Thursday, Bush said America will be tough and resolute to defeat terrorists so future generations can live in peace. "And there is no doubt in my mind, not one doubt in my mind, that we will fail," the president said.

His audience at the Labor Department did not react. Bush, known to make occasional verbal mistakes, continued on in a positive vein: "Failure is not a part of our vocabulary. This great nation will lead the world and we will be successful."

AP-ES-10-04-01 1719EDT

16 posted on 10/04/2001 2:46:05 PM PDT by rdavis84
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There will be a rather scary blurring of the lines between external war fighting and internal policing roles—not only abroad but within the United States.

Go figure.

17 posted on 10/04/2001 2:54:49 PM PDT by Askel5
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It might influence people's attitudes towards the regime.

I fail to see why.

A regime that receives kudos for "informing consciences" (and quote Scripture on TV!!) as it announces federal funding to perpetuate ESCR can pretty much do whatever the hell it wants as long as folks feel free to strike a blow for liberty by further crushing themselves with personal debt.

18 posted on 10/04/2001 2:57:06 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: LSJohn
While many might find this article worth attacking, it brings home several valid points - unfortunately.

1. The USA has it's way of being the tyrannical cop & business manager to the world.

2. The USA has abandoned integrity in such forms as Bush's terrorist Executive Order conveniently leaving out certain "acceptable" terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas & Islamic Jihad, by specific name (EO 13224).

3. The U.S. government agencies methodically ignoring overwhelming warnings; and an undeniable sequence of historical terrorist 'achievements' so as to permit the 9-11 horror.

4. Lying to the American people that there were no warnings.

5. Not warning the American public so as to allow personal choices.

6. Giving billion dollar cash & tax breaks to the airlines which facilitated the 9-11 mess - and arranging protective legislation against civil litigation. Criminal prosecution is obviously far more appropriate (ValuJet 592).

7. With the American segment of Bin Laden's family recently getting Swiss citizenship, the U.S. ensures Bin Laden's family safe conduct to leave the USA, while pretending to be horrified and vengeful toward terrorism.

8. Ignoring the Afghan heroin trade which reaches the USA, while ignoring American needs and, instead, funding aid to the farmers who grow the opium poppies.

9. Providing aid to the Muslim terrorists, disguised as an ethnic patriot group ("Ethnic Albanians") in the Balkans - because they control a future oil pipeline corridor and sell heroin.

All these things make the American government a target for the "liberation" of the selectively ignorant American people at the hands of terrorists.

Those aware know the insane decisions which are forced on the American people; with no remaining government agency - including Congress - willing to actually defend the American Constitution against the business deals which we witness on the global scene.

In essence, the selective non-warning of America brought on the 9-11 horror as an excuse for the New World Order to make a policy statement.

The single act of ensuring Bin Laden's family safe exit says that it was all a business deal; "....nothing personal, just business."
19 posted on 10/04/2001 3:17:42 PM PDT by SKYDRIFTER
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Bin Laden is the closest theing the world has seen to Ernst Stavro Blofeld, Dr. No or some other Bond villain ...

That is what is so unreal about him.

20 posted on 10/04/2001 3:22:34 PM PDT by roughrider
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