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U.S. Pursued Secret Efforts to Catch or Kill bin Laden
The New York Times ^ | 09/30/2001 | JAMES RISEN

Posted on 09/29/2001 6:24:25 PM PDT by Pokey78

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1 posted on 09/29/2001 6:24:25 PM PDT by Pokey78
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"It was something that we focused on on a daily basis, and pursued with vigor, and I think we accomplished quite a lot," said former Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright. "I think we took it as far as was possible to go at the time, and I think what we did has provided the basis for things the Bush administration is trying to do now."

This is beyond laughable. Where is the Times going to put this piece of CYA tripe? The funny pages?

The whole d*** paper is nothing but the funny pages.

Change Albright's fourth-last word from "trying" to "having" and she would be right.

2 posted on 09/29/2001 6:29:41 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: Pokey78
The NYT helping Clinton and his staff CYA. When criticism of Willie's administration is suggested, his supporters say 'well, the Dems are being so cooperative with President Bush, why can't you stick to the facts NOW instead of dwelling on the past'. But sooner or later...
3 posted on 09/29/2001 6:30:36 PM PDT by SmartBlonde
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To: Pokey78
More Clinton damage control.

This is all BS.

4 posted on 09/29/2001 6:33:35 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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"Former Clinton administration officials ... defend their own efforts

"It was something that we focused on on a daily basis, and pursued with vigor,

and I think we accomplished quite a lot," said former Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright. "


5 posted on 09/29/2001 6:33:40 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: SmartBlonde
What a bunch of crap. Did they interview bill & hill for this piece. Sounds just like the junk Judy Wooddrip was spewing on CNN last week.
6 posted on 09/29/2001 6:36:18 PM PDT by esmith
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To: Pokey78
What a load of crap! These people think some of us will believe anything! The last person Clinton ever wanted dead was Osama Ben Laden - he was far too useful to him, along with Sodom Insane. He had Jerry Parks, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, Johnny Lawton, and scores of others in and out of AR, including an associate of mine, killed efficiently and elaborately - I think they could have taken out Big Ben Laden, as well. This whole crowd will burn in Hell.
7 posted on 09/29/2001 6:40:18 PM PDT by agrandis
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To: Pokey78
The source of this story is obviously Bill Clinton leaking like a seive to save his sorry a$$ed legacy. The source is certainly no one in the Bush administration or the CIA. That just about limits the possible sources to Bill or Hillary or Monica.

The question is how do we know when Bill is lying or destorting the truth? Just remember for Bill oral sex is not sex. Bill never told us why Oral SEX has the word SEX in it if it ain't SEX.

Read this story with the full knowledge that the CIA has Agents and the Military has Troops and the water in Bill Clintons head is murky if not greasy.

ARE AGENTS TROOPS IF YOU ARE NOT HAVING CIA WITH THEM? ONLY KLINTON KNOWS FOR SURE.


8 posted on 09/29/2001 6:40:43 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: pray4liberty
BTTT, I concur.
9 posted on 09/29/2001 6:53:58 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth
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To: pray4liberty
Bill Clinton bombed the Sudan and Afghanistan without going to Congress, without informing Afghan's neighbors and/or our allies, and without any explanations to the American people.

This week he informed the world that he sent a team of people in to assassinate Usama Bin Laden, clearly against the law and once again without any advice or consent from people outside his inner circle.

Then, there's President Bush's way. Following the law, no matter how inconvenient or time consuming. Working to repair trust with foreign leaders and nations on a basic level, with respect for national sovereignty, and with Bush's quiet determination and resolve, these foreign leaders are gaining respect for a President who does not make idle threats. Americans have a President who also respects their right to know what's going on in their own back yard, and trusts that we are not only capable of understanding, but will come together as a nation and help in this effort.

Excuse the vanity, but the differences between the two men have never seemed clearer to me. President Bush's respect for the law, trust in the American people, ability to see beyond differences and extend a hand to his rivals, faith in God, and love of America. I just wanted to share the observation.

10 posted on 09/29/2001 6:57:32 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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Washington did not build a strong international coalition to focus on defeating Al Qaeda...

There is no question that it is the President's job to build international coalitions, but I think it's a little far reaching of the New York Times to blame ol' George for something Slick Willie didn't do. Remember this guy, Mr. (NoMojo) RISEN of the NYT?

This was a top priority for us over the past several years, and not a day went by when we didn't press as hard as we could," said Samuel R. Berger, national security adviser in the Clinton administration

Sure Sandy. When we thought you Clintonistas were spending most of your tiume worrying about helping the Islamic terrorists drive the Serbs out of Kosovo, you were actually totally focused on hunting down their friend bin Laden. Time for a quick flashback:



From "Bill Clinton - Vast Bubba Cons" (a parody of "Bob Dylan - At Budokan"):

MR. DAMNED MARINE MAN
(parody of "Mr. Tambourine Man")

Hey! Mr. Damned Marine man, play along with me,
Though I'm sleazy and this is a waste you're going to.
Hey! Mr. Damned Marine Man, play along with me,
My star spangled mangled war games will come callin' on you.

And I told you evil empires would soon fall into our hands,
We drove the vanquished from their lands,
Now preside over the clans and do some mine sweepin'.
My eerie bliss amazes me, I've landed on my feet,
Though I'm branded as a cheat,
And our Asian enemies treat us like their Eden.

Hey! Mr. Damned Marine Man, play along with me,
Though I'm sleazy and this is a waste you're going to.
Hey! Mr. Damned Marine Man, play along with me,
My star spangled mangled war games will come callin' on you.

Don't break rank or disappear man, if the thought runs through your mind,
Among the rocky ruins and mines, forget your jewels and leap,
We’ve bought a frightening peace, mount your tanks and fill the beach,
Just surround them wicked creeps and crazy fellows.
We'll besiege the slime and quell the strife, bring Slobodan to his knees,
We'll slow up the killin’ sprees, circle ‘round their strip of land,
But don’t forget the KLA, make a sweep through all their caves,
Just forget your lousy pay until tomorrow.

Hey! Mr. Damned Marine Man, play along with me,
Though I'm sleazy and this is a waste you're going to.
Hey! Mr. Damned Marine Man, play along with me,
My star spangled mangled war games will come callin' on you.


Excerpted from: LOVE THOSE CLUSTER BOMBS (HOPE KOSOVO DON’T BLOW)
(parody of "One More Cup of Coffee (Valley Below)")

...
Slobodan's mean
He likes to fight, like me and tell some lies.
His knack to hate, is very smooth,
I can tell he's quite a guy.
I've got the same affliction,
And his attitude on love.
He may be royally pissed at me,
But NATO ain't no dove.

Love those cluster bombs when they explode,
Love those cluster bombs I sure have shown,
Hope Kosovo don’t blow...


JUST LIKE A WARMONGER (parody of "Just Like A Woman")

Old Bubba feels all your pain,
Though I admit I might just be insane.
Ev'rybody knows,
The emperor has no clothes.
But lately I've been seein' red at ol’ Slobo.
I've been callin' to my girl.

She fakes just like a warmonger,
And she’s a snake just like a warmonger,
She hates doves just like a warmonger,
But she may break, just like that brittle Gore.

Dear Madeleine, she's my friend.
Yes, I believe she could even be my kin.
Slobodan has to guess,
How we’ll resolve this mess.
When he finally sees that Albright treats him like a pest,
Will he bog down out Marines, and Mad's elves.


She fakes, just like a warmonger,
And she’s a snake just like a warmonger,
She hates doves just like a warmonger,
But she may break, just like that brittle Gore.

When I’m bracin' for the worst,
And tryin' to be terse,
I will feign a tear,
And my two term curse hurts,
But what's worse,
Is my pain and fear,
My legacy is near,
And it's too damned weird.


Them Kosovars just give me fits,
Some believe it’s time to pass them to the Brits.

When it heats up again,
When everyone will cringe,
Please don't let on that I knew it smelled,
Say I was wonderin' about your little war.

Ah, you fake just like a warmonger,
You’re a snake just like a warmonger,
You hate doves just like a warmonger,
But you may break, just like that brittle Gore.


ALL ALONG OUR LAUNCH TOWERS
(parody of "All Along the Watchtower")


Some say that I’m a horse’s rear,
I'm a joke here I agree,
There's too much derision,
I can't get no fig leaf.
Slobodan's plans take up my time,
bin Laden roams my earth,
But none of them have throngs like mine,
Who knows how any of ‘em works.

"No reason to get excited,"
To the Greeks I slyly spoke,
"There are many here among us,
Who feel that Kosovo's a joke.

But you know why,
And don’t you rat,
Anyway it’s too damned late,
So let’s just stalk Milosevic,
Or NATO’s power is giving way.”

All along our launch towers,
No missiles are left but a few,
While all my women came and went,
Few heard more disturbing news.
Outside of Bill Gertz’s rants,
I’m hidin’ big scams for now,
If more writers dare to broach these things,
My spin may come unwound.

RealAudio sound clips at FreeSpeechRecords.com.
Available on Amazon.com.


11 posted on 09/29/2001 7:03:47 PM PDT by ravinson
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"It was something that we focused on on a daily basis, and pursued with vigor, and I think we accomplished quite a lot," said former Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright. "I think we took it as far as was possible to go at the time, and I think what we did has provided the basis for things the Bush administration is trying to do now."

Yes, what you did for bin Laden's friends in Kosovo was taking it "as far as possible" -- in the wrong direction.

12 posted on 09/29/2001 7:11:25 PM PDT by ravinson
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If the Toon administration ever went after bin Laden, it was to shake him down for contributions. The Toon administration WAS a terrorist administration, and I'm convinced they still are. That Bush has retained so many of them still makes him suspect in my book.
13 posted on 09/29/2001 7:13:51 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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Geez.. even the NYT has to be chuckling at this...How transparent. LEAKED by Clinton, Hell...he probably walked over to the New York Times office, got himself a cup of coffee (stole other people donuts) and started walking into people's offices.
14 posted on 09/29/2001 7:16:15 PM PDT by Hildy
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"It was something that we focused on on a daily basis, and pursued with vigor, and I think we accomplished quite a lot," said former Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright. "I think we took it as far as was possible to go at the time, and I think what we did has provided the basis for things the Bush administration is trying to do now."

"This was a top priority for us over the past several years, and not a day went by when we didn't press as hard as we could," said Samuel R. Berger, national security adviser in the Clinton administration.

As usual, the Clinton crowd is concerned not with results, but only how they are perceived. Ultimately, the eight Clinton years will be understood to have amounted to nothing much more than Sex between the Bushes.

15 posted on 09/29/2001 7:44:15 PM PDT by Reo
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"Clinton administration lawyers determined that the United States could legitimately seek to kill Mr. bin Laden and his lieutenants despite the presidential ban on assassinations, according to current and former American officials. The lawyers concluded that efforts to hunt and kill Mr. bin Laden were defensible either as acts of war or as national self defense, legitimate under both American and international law."

Obviously the Clinton lawyers [Bubba and Bubbaette]used this self-defense theory to justify the elimination of those who threatened them in their putrid climb for power.

16 posted on 09/29/2001 9:36:26 PM PDT by belle99
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The New York Times: Stunningly predictable! Musn't let Slick's LEG-acy get tarnished, shall we?
17 posted on 09/29/2001 9:51:48 PM PDT by Long Cut
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I said in a thread the other day that more and more, reporters and talking head guests, Bill O'Reilly, etc. were asking why didn't we know, why didn't we do something during those years he was attacking us? They were starting to research and I knew the real truth was coming out about Clinton and his so-called administration and it would bury them. Some of this fairy tale by the NYT can be checked and people questioned to determine the lies in this piece. Maybe we are going to win a twofer..NYT and the Clintons.
18 posted on 09/29/2001 10:28:00 PM PDT by maranatha
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Too good to hope for. I've been down THAT road as far as Slick goes more times than I care to remember, but the little s**t always slithers out. Look at how many people are STILL willing to lie to protect him, and how willing the Slimes is to report on it.
19 posted on 09/29/2001 10:50:26 PM PDT by Long Cut
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I think it has been different since the election of Bush. There has been steady turning up of rocks and facts being shown in the light of day. More than I can count. It isn't the same. Look how Clinton is ridiculed and dismissed by a large percent of the public since he left the White House. I think it is possible that more and more will be revealed about Clinton and the public will scorn him.
20 posted on 09/29/2001 11:00:10 PM PDT by maranatha
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