JIHAD – ISLAMIC HOLY WAR

Frontline Missions ^ | 1995 | Peter Hammond

[Bush2004]

Interesting thread. I've heard of a St. Martin of Tours church and school. Must be the legacy of The Hammer, right?

[RaceBannon]

major bump

[JMJ333]

bttt [and thanks for post 20]

Perhaps you should start signing you replys "the hammer" in honor of your desecendant! ;)

[muawiyah]

Here's a brief on Charles.  

http://www.ghg.net/shetler/oldimp/214.html

An excerpt: "Charles Martel became Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia when his father, Pepin II, died in 714. That year he was imprisoned by his step-mother Plectudis, but escaped later in the year to lead the Austrasian and Neustrian nobles. "

Charles Martel is ordinarily referred to as a "barbarian" by many historians, and he and his fellow Franks are reported to have not been terribly popular with the populations over which they ruled - the Governor of Spain being held in high esteem particularly by the Moslem people already living in France.

Moslem missionaries had been active in France for quite some time, and Islam proved to be popular.  The Moslem army which invaded France was doing so in accordance with their moral imperative to provide protection to innocent co-religionists. I really don't know what the Franks had done to French Moslems, but whatever it was, it was sufficient to attract foreign attention.  More than likely it was something along the lines of what Osama Bin Laden did the other day.

You have to watch out drawing parallels with the Dark Ages and early Middle Ages and the modern world.  After all, in those days Western Europe, except for Brezh, Cymru, Scota, Cornouille and Galiza, was a barbarous wilderness or in the control of Moslems.  Then, too, this business of Charles Martel is overreported way behind it's importance.  The arrival of San Cho Noe from Cornouille to Galiza was of far greater importance to history, yet almost no one knows of this refined gentleman (one of my ancestors).

[gg188]

In WWII, several tens of thousands of American Soldiers died to preserve an Idea--America!

Point of information only: make that several HUNDREDS of thousands (circa 300,000 WWII US military fatalities I think.)

[Mahone]

San Cho Noe

He would have been the King of Castille, I believe? Came from Cornwall?

[muawiyah]

Yes, of course!~ Everybody knows that. The Reconquista started in the minds of the folks who lived at Carvajal. The French Kings knew this very well, and the Order of Carvajal was a high one.

Then there's the crowd who thinks the first King of Castile was named "Sancho" ~~ but it's "San Cho Noe".

[Aquinasfan]

The bombing was depressing enough. Then I did some reading about Islam on the internet and came to the same conclusions as those expressed in this article.

This has been a wake-up call for me, and hopefully for many others. The people who said that the next confrontation would be between Islam and the West were exactly right.

[ChadGore]

bttt

[Mahone]

Yes, of course!~ Everybody knows that.

Silly me!