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Why America Has Already Lost the War
Arutz Sheva (Israel) | 28 September 2001 | Moshe Feiglin

Posted on 09/28/2001 11:19:47 AM PDT by Magician

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To: Magician
As an American, I wholeheartedly endorse and support the elimination of "Palestine", their stinking filthy terrorist networks, and their sickening parasite supporters there and here. They are vermin in human form.
182 posted on 10/01/2001 2:24:49 PM PDT by Imperial Warrior
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To: Imperial Warrior
As an American, I wholeheartedly endorse and support “the transcendent and precious right of the people to ‘abolish or alter their governments as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness’“ (James Madison, Federalist No. 40).

;>)

183 posted on 10/01/2001 2:46:45 PM PDT by Who is John Galt?
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To: Stat Man
The REAL solution would be to separate the children and reeducate them. These children are brainwashed from birth and it is generational. This is the greatest challenge. Teach them their religion without the prejudice and hate.

I believe that when all cultures are connected via the internet and whatever else the future brings, that this will be the time when many of these archaic and ignorant cultural behaviors will be eradicated.

In the meantime, we will witness decades more of these clashes between cultures that are indeed centuries apart in civilized behavior. The babies born today in the Muslim world will still be throwing rocks in about 8-10 years....and so on, and so on, and so on,.........

184 posted on 10/01/2001 2:55:47 PM PDT by Swede Girl
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To: Magician
They slaughtered you in the name of Allah and now the President calls on you to pray to him.

doesn't matter. If you pray to a god who doesn't exist, how is he going to answer?

185 posted on 10/01/2001 2:58:31 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: agrandis
The Spanish Inquisition, for one example, is an imposter daughter, a cult, persecuting the mother.

The Spanish Crown was a cult, whose putative mother was Spanish Moslems and Jews posing as converts to Catholicism?

You pretty clearly don't know what you're talking about on the subject of either "impostor daughters," "cults," or the Spanish Inquisition.

I will agree with you that authentic, Biblical Christianity does not hate Jews or Judaism. One only has to read the pronouncements of recent Popes to see that, and reflect on the fact that Pope Pius XII saved more Jews from Hitler than any other leader on the face of the earth -- and his reward for it is to be shamefully calumniated by supposed "experts," whose primary area of expertise seems to be in ignoring historical evidence.

186 posted on 10/01/2001 3:12:55 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Fred25
We stick our noses into Israel's business every time the Palestinians succeed in killing more Jews. The writer has an opinion that may make sense. We have never been surrounded by enemies determined to wipe us off the face of the earth and who try every day to kill us. The Jews know their enemy, we don't seem to know the bad Muslims from the good ones. Can you tell us who are good and who aren't? In the immortal words of Butch Cassidy: "who are those guys?" The Muslim cleric who "preached peace" at the National Cathedral service was the same guy that appeared in front of the White House chanting, "death to America and Israel!"
187 posted on 10/01/2001 3:36:27 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
Only in the eyes of the wicked and barbaric

Why do you say that? It has been that way for 13 centuries, off and on--mainly on. And didn't our enemy define it that way, themselves? I'm afraid I don't understand how I am wicked and barbaric to take them at their word.

188 posted on 10/01/2001 3:40:06 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Who is John Galt?
Ditto from the other thread:

THEY refer to themselves as Christians. It is up to THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY to dispute and repudiate their claims. If I have shocked and provoked you into taking this stance, then I've done my part to stand up to "Christian Identity."

189 posted on 10/01/2001 5:05:18 PM PDT by Who is George Salt?
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To: Paulus Invictus
I don’t care to get into a big argument about Zionism. I don’t consider most American Jews to be Zionists, even if they do look upon Israel favorably. I consider them to be Americans. I look upon England favorably, and I’m probably mostly Anglo-Saxon, but I support America over England, and I wouldn’t want any Brit telling me that we’ve “already lost the war”.

My best friend, a Jewish guy I’ve known for more than 30 years, thinks Zionist Israelis are nuts, and he thinks of them as “foreigners”, just as I do. He’s an American like I am.

I would much rather have Jewish friends than Islamic friends. I’ve met a number of Islamic people in my lifetime, and I’ve always felt the ones I met were a little..... odd and peculiar. But I’ve felt the Zionists I’ve met were radical racist nuts who don’t care about any place but “Zion”, and I don’t like it when a Zionist lectures us, saying we’ve “already lost the war”.

The Muslim cleric who "preached peace" at the National Cathedral service was the same guy that appeared in front of the White House chanting, "death to America and Israel!"

Jail him, exile him, deport him. I don’t support Islamic whackos. I’m an American and I support America. I don’t support racists, egotists, or whackos of any country.

191 posted on 10/01/2001 10:01:53 PM PDT by Fred25
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To: 2sheep
Great piece...except: true Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism but Islam is not. Ishmael was a child of the flesh and Isaac of the spirit.

That is absolute baloney and Zionist propaganda! Both Isaac and Ishmael were Abraham’s sons, and Abraham threw Ishmael and his mother out into the desert to starve because he didn’t want them anymore.

192 posted on 10/01/2001 10:05:05 PM PDT by Fred25
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To: Swede Girl
The REAL solution would be to separate the children and reeducate them. These children are brainwashed from birth and it is generational.

Hmmm...you seem to think children are born good and brainwashed into becoming evil. I think people are inherently selfish and evil and have to be taught to do good. And the very, very best way to teach good behavior is punishment for bad behavior, corresponding in its severity to the severity of the behavior.

193 posted on 10/01/2001 10:52:03 PM PDT by Stat Man
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
That makes you the same crap they are, and they are no more Christian than you are.

Kinda' over the top there, aren't you? You still didn't answer the question and your thinking is still incoherent. But I guess that's allowed for omniscient guttersnipes. Don't bother to reply--I won't reply back and the more you talk, the stupider you appear.

194 posted on 10/02/2001 4:34:23 AM PDT by jammer
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
What the hell are you talking about? If I wanted to marginalize FR, here's what I would do: Sign up an agent to place ridiculous posts on the board so that they could be quoted by the news media as demonstrations of lunacy. They would have the added benefit of blocking any intelligent interchange. Your posts definitely qualify on both counts.

What are you? A disruptor? Brainless? Or an agent provocateur? Whatever, sonny boy, you're overmatched. As Deb said one time to another like you, if you ever need a job, call me. I know a village that lost its idiot.

196 posted on 10/02/2001 7:18:47 AM PDT by jammer
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To: Ditto
We attack one half of Islam, while stroking the other with assurances. What a moronic statement. They are the right and left half of the same body. This author is correct, unless we are willing to committ mayhem against the enemy, and the enemy is all of Islam, we cannot win. It is a perfect analogy, "killing the wasps but leaving the nest alone". Disagree with the author, with me, but watch and be saddened by our ineffective use of power.
197 posted on 10/02/2001 8:14:47 AM PDT by jeremiah
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To: Gritty
Bush is being diplomatic in trying to prevent an international Jihad Hello, is this too hard to fathom for you? We are under attack by an international Jihad, we are ground zero for the war, and you talk of coalitions and soothing feelings with our enemies.
198 posted on 10/02/2001 8:26:51 AM PDT by jeremiah
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To: jeremiah
I don't believe I've heard a more distorted perception in my life. You want to talk about Muslims who don't hate you-fine. Let's take India as an example. With the second largest population of Muslims in the world, I believe India qualifies. And Indian muslims aren't militants, they don't terrorise Americans. The terrorists' version of Islam is completely twisted-Islam is a humanitarian religon. And I thought America was mean to be a secular country.
199 posted on 10/02/2001 8:48:00 AM PDT by Pallavi_99
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To: Who is George Salt?
"Ditto from the other thread:"

THEY refer to themselves as Christians. It is up to THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY to dispute and repudiate their claims. If I have shocked and provoked you into taking this stance, then I've done my part to stand up to "Christian Identity."

Will you claim that Federal Express is an agency of the Federal government simply because “THEY refer to themselves as” Federal? You have referred to believers in “Christian Identity” as part of the “Christian right,” even though you yourself admit they are not “bonafide Christians.” Are you responsible for the veracity of your own posts, or not?

By the way, your posts were neither ‘shocking’ nor ‘provoking’ to anyone familiar with the subject matter: your self-important posturing is therefore totally unwarranted…

;>)

200 posted on 10/02/2001 8:50:30 AM PDT by Who is John Galt?
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