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Klamath Update
California State Grange ^ | Sept. 2001 | Jay Hartz

Posted on 09/27/2001 10:36:59 PM PDT by farmfriend

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To: Siegfried
Good point. Maybe not time for planting, but no water = no plans to.
21 posted on 09/29/2001 5:30:34 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: farmfriend
bttt
22 posted on 09/29/2001 9:04:34 AM PDT by farmfriend
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23 posted on 09/29/2001 11:57:49 AM PDT by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
bttt
24 posted on 10/02/2001 12:13:50 AM PDT by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
Thanks for the update.

Hopefully the Norton administration of the Dept of Interior will get more rational and turn this Federal Act of Stupidity around to something more reasonable!

(((BTTT!)!!!!

25 posted on 10/02/2001 12:32:05 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: lightstream & all
The headgate committee has set a trailer up at the headgate area and will man it in the days. It is set up for winter weather to keep a presence there steady. And the bureaucrats are still screwing the farmers. How? Well in the last 3 weeks the inflow of water into Upper Klamath lake from the Williamson and Sprague rivers (according to gov records)has increased from 380 cfs to 525 cfs. Other sources(rivers & springs)have also increased a little.Inflows are almost up to normal averages.But in the last 10 days the releases out of the lake down river and over Irongate Dam have been increased by the crooks from 1015 cfs to 1175 cfs.It seems that anytime a little extra water appears the the crocks get rid of it. AND THE LAKE STILL WENT UP ALMOST A TENTH OF A FOOT IN THE LAST 10 DAYS. Everybody please tell your rep what is happening. Bitch at the BOR, and Norton's office.Call the Klamath paper the Herald and News and folks in Klamath please tell your neighbors.If they can manipulate the flows gradually this way come next spring no water for farmers.The court ordered Biologcal Opinion only calls for a 1000cfs I understand at Irongate.Fight Back.I talk to my rep here in Mich. trying to help.The extra water even though it is not a huge amount should be going to the irrigation systems now to recharge the water table and fill the refuges; so that in the spring the farmers will not need such a huge amount to soak up a dried out system. God Bless Our Country And Farmers. Ed Hubel
27 posted on 10/03/2001 10:21:14 AM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458
Take heart. The California Grange still has some aces up their collective sleeves.
28 posted on 10/03/2001 11:18:43 PM PDT by farmfriend
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To: hubel458
The flow at Seiad Valley is up to 1300cfs from 1100.
I suspect they've got to get rid of the water so as
it doesn't appear that there's enough to farm with.
29 posted on 10/04/2001 10:53:44 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: sasquatch
Yep, and if they can manipulate 200 cfs away all the time, then in a normal precipitation year farmers have no water. The irrigation system needs that 200 cfs all year. Even in the winter as much as possible.The 200cfs steady would give farmers and the refuges almost 2/3 of their yearly needs from Upper Klamath Lake.(100 cfs is 72,000 acre ft/year-200 cfs is 144,000 acre ft/yr-The farms and refuges once full and water table full need about 230,000 acre ft/yr from Upper Klamath Lake). I sent this thread to My rep here in Michigan,and to Sen Smith of Oregon.Also gave them this web site address.A thousand people doing this will help.
30 posted on 10/04/2001 12:55:23 PM PDT by hubel458
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Well, they've now cranked it up to 1500 CFS
River flow
31 posted on 10/11/2001 9:18:20 AM PDT by sasquatch
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re-indexing
32 posted on 10/20/2001 12:40:01 AM PDT by farmfriend
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To: hubel458
Morning,

At Seiad Valley:

11/17/2001 21:30 1665 cfs ...and rising
33 posted on 11/18/2001 5:52:22 AM PST by sasquatch
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