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Will Balkan journalists suspected of encouraging war crimes escape prosecution?
IWPR ^ | 17-22 09 - 2k1 | Amra Kebo

Posted on 09/27/2001 8:38:14 AM PDT by Voronin

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This really takes the biscuit. The Balkans are being used as a proving ground for the NWO and their lackeys against whomever they wish, save themselves (World Court DOA in USA).

If this ever comes to fruition, you won't see a westerner on there. Roy Gutman is prime choice because he deliberately compared the camps in Bosnia to Auschwitz (etc. etc.), only gentiles could come up with something like that (& Ruder Finn).

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1 posted on 09/27/2001 8:38:14 AM PDT by Voronin
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2 posted on 09/27/2001 8:38:55 AM PDT by Voronin
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3 posted on 09/27/2001 8:39:24 AM PDT by Voronin
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4 posted on 09/27/2001 8:39:56 AM PDT by Voronin
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5 posted on 09/27/2001 8:40:25 AM PDT by Voronin
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6 posted on 09/27/2001 8:41:18 AM PDT by Voronin
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To: Voronin
I am not a Serb, nor do I speak the lingo but I saw those broadcasts and they mocked the massacre not attempted to lie about it. They mocked it because the killers were Muslims who tried to frame the Serbs for the deed as the UN investigation later showed.

Oh wait am I guilty now? Hague here I come!

7 posted on 09/27/2001 8:51:56 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: Pericles
They mocked it because the killers were Muslims who tried to frame the Serbs for the deed as the UN investigation later showed.

And you know that for sure? There is no doubt that Muslims killed their own people in Markale? Were you there? Or because Bosnian Serb TV said you, its true?

8 posted on 09/27/2001 9:08:00 AM PDT by bluester
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To: bluester
You want proof? Look it up.
9 posted on 09/27/2001 9:09:16 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: bluester
I know your lazy.

Mystery of the market massacre

THE TIMES (London)

March 28 2000

by Eve-Ann Prentice

SIXTY-EIGHT people died and more than 200 were injured when a single shell exploded in a small Sarajevo market. The ghastly scenes were filmed and a horrified world was left in no doubt that the Serbs were to blame. The slaughter brought deeper American involvement in the Balkans, with the formation of the US-led Contact Group and an American-negotiated alliance between Bosnia's Muslims and Croats.

The massacre also ultimately paved the way for American airstrikes on Bosnian Serb positions in late summer, 1995. Furthermore, the killing brought about a deal whereby the Serbs pulled back their heavy guns from the mountains surrounding Sarajevo and the Muslims reluctantly signed a ceasefire. The easing of the siege, and the relief for the people of Sarajevo, was a notable achievement.

To this day no one knows who fired the deadly mortar round on Markale market in February 1994. Survivors and witnesses said they heard no characteristic whistle of an approaching missile; this later led to suggestions that a bomb had been placed under a stall. A Western diplomat who was in Sarajevo at the time told me in 1999 that he was convinced the bombing was perpetrated by the Muslim-led Government. The Muslims were sure that the Serbs would be blamed and hoped that outrage at the carnage would lead to airstrikes against their foes and increase pressure for a lifting of the arms embargo that was in place against all the warring sides. Britain and France were vehemently opposed to lifting the embargo, although America had shown signs of wanting to arm the Muslims.

"On the morning of the explosion some people were told that it was not a good day to go to the market," the Western diplomat said. "There was also no shelling from the Serb positions that day, and the injuries were mainly from the waist down, as if a bomb had exploded in situ." The diplomat said that another sign that the Muslim-led Government had been responsible was that government media with cameras were on the scene "within seconds", as if poised in advance to record the full horror of the carnage to gain as much world impact as possible.

The suggestion that the Muslims shelled their own people began to be discussed by diplomats, politicians and a few journalists after the UN's investigation into the massacre concluded that no one could be sure whence the shell had come. But most people recoiled at the idea of such self-inflicted mutilation. The majority of the world's press and politicians accepted the instant suggestion that the Serbs were responsible; questions were not encouraged and the general view was that the end justified the means: the siege of Sarajevo was eased. But blaming the Serbs without proof set a precedent, and the process of demonising them took deeper root.

10 posted on 09/27/2001 9:16:54 AM PDT by Pericles
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Look it up? You mean by entering into a search engine and getting results from Srpska mreza, Balkanunity, and other Serb site sites? That's evidence?
11 posted on 09/27/2001 9:17:18 AM PDT by bluester
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Yes, and its interesting, that Un official, that Western diplomat was supposed to be saying it, without mentioning any names and evidence to back it up. It's up to words. You have to prove that someone kills his own people just for fun, when you know you are surrounded by Serb forces that are regulary shelling Sarajevo, as they have in that time. So please...
12 posted on 09/27/2001 9:20:14 AM PDT by bluester
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To: Voronin
Christiane Amanpour [SP] should be the first.

I watched the documentary on Sereajevo, I also watched some time later a documentary from the muslim perspective,"Yugoslavia the avoidable war," was an account from all kinds of professionals, whereas the other one was purely anecdotal, just as it was in all Christane's reports.

13 posted on 09/27/2001 9:22:44 AM PDT by Great Dane
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bluester said: without mentioning any names and evidence to back it up..surrounded by Serb forces that are regulary shelling Sarajevo, as they have in that time.

Evidence for you (note the time of publication. More has come out on this incident since then that back the diplomat up).

The Times: "There was also no shelling from the Serb positions that day, and the injuries were mainly from the waist down, as if a bomb had exploded in situ." The diplomat said that another sign that the Muslim-led Government had been responsible was that government media with cameras were on the scene "within seconds", as if poised in advance to record the full horror of the carnage to gain as much world impact as possible.

bluester said: You have to prove that someone kills his own people just for fun

It was not done for fun, bluester.

The Times: The Muslims were sure that the Serbs would be blamed and hoped that outrage at the carnage would lead to airstrikes against their foes and increase pressure for a lifting of the arms embargo that was in place against all the warring sides.

14 posted on 09/27/2001 9:29:43 AM PDT by Pericles
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You know what's really troubling me Pericles? Every single case of Serb attrocities (Racak, Srebrenica, Sarajevo, Vukovar, Trnpolje....) has been denied here, its almost become a practice to deny, justify, minimize anything that leads to Serb crimes comitted against others, while having no problem accpeting whatever is brought up from the Serb side. And if it's not denied, then it's supposed to be self-bombing attacks, the nationality of the victims is questioned, together with claims that children that were killed were simply KLA soldiers (in case of Kosovo) or Mujahadeen soldiers in Bosnia?!?

Come on, you don't think I don't see what's going on. It's all very clear to me.

15 posted on 09/27/2001 9:30:05 AM PDT by bluester
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To: bluester
Please read before you post. As you see your questions were answered in The Times article. It is up to you to come to terms with them. By the way a UN investigation did take place and its conclusions form the basis for The Times article I just posted for you.
16 posted on 09/27/2001 9:32:47 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: bluester
The source is a British source. The well respected and venerable Times of London. Not a Serb source for sure. What say you now?
17 posted on 09/27/2001 9:34:15 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: bluester
What is unclear to you? I post from Western non-Serb sources. Not one of my posts is from a Serbian advocacy group. How do you explain the conclusions of The Times of London?
18 posted on 09/27/2001 9:36:44 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: bluester
Don't bother, bud.

All the B.S. around Markale will be eliminated when Galic makes it to the Hague for his trial.

05 February 1994: A 120 mm mortar shell hit a crowded open air market called "Markale" situated in a civilian area of Old Town Sarajevo, killing 66 people and wounding over 140. The origin of fire was VRS held territory NNE at Spicasta Stijena or Mrkovici.

Hence all the furor to discredit the ICTY - it's making some people's work difficult.

19 posted on 09/27/2001 9:40:09 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Pericles
It's interesting that you believe those magazines, when you like what you hear but not when they talk about things you don't like to hear. I may believe them, or I may not believe them, but I know for sure, that this is not about the truth, but about taking side, defending it no matter what, while ignoring it's responsibility. And you didn't answer my question about the constant denial of Serb crimes that I talked about. Any comment?
20 posted on 09/27/2001 9:41:10 AM PDT by bluester
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