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Government Against the People
Words of Truth ^ | Aaron Armitage

Posted on 09/24/2001 12:49:15 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage

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To: Cultural Jihad; Texaggie79
Texaggie79 babbles:

"prove that you can smoke crack as much as you want and that you pose absolutely no threat to your neighbors".

And the indecipherable reply?

"Wouldn't the ideologues claim that the neighbors consented to be endangered by drug addicts because otherwise they'd have moved some place else?"
256 posted by Cultural Jihad

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Folks, gibberish don't get much better than this. Enjoy.

Whoops! Forgot to flag tex, and draw attention to his 'sayings'.

261 posted on 12/11/2001 8:13:09 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
'prove you can beat your wife without hurting her'

Wow, so you see using crack as harmful to neighbors. Kewl, so we agree then. Glad you finally got it.

262 posted on 12/11/2001 8:13:48 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: A.J.Armitage
People have done criminal acts on nicotine as well....
263 posted on 12/11/2001 8:14:31 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: A.J.Armitage
Fine. So the Libertaliban has legalized all forms of recreational poisons and stationed their Brown Shirts outside the heroin and crack depots and package stores to protect them from unlawful arsonists in the neighborhood. We understand that according to the worldview of the moral-liberal elitists, the right of drug addicts to shoot up in the open air of a public park always trumps the right of families to enjoy a picnic unmolested by sleaze and dirty needles. We understand that according to the worldview of the moral-liberal elitists, the right of perverts to acquire a self-inflicted disease always trumps the right of hemophiliacs and newborns to be free of behavioral diseases. We understand that according to the worldview of the moral-liberal elitists, the right of debauched people to produce, consume, and inundate our culture with the most vicious and degrading of pornography always trumps the right of children to their own innocence. We understand that according to the worldview of the moral-liberal elitists, the right of able-bodied and lazy freeloaders to sleep on the sidewalks always trumps the right of taxpayers to navigate the sidewalks free of urine, feces, and vomit.
264 posted on 12/11/2001 8:15:00 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: tpaine
Why don't you post with colored words, it would make your experience more trippy.
265 posted on 12/11/2001 8:18:13 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Cultural Jihad
Did typing all that make you feel good?
266 posted on 12/11/2001 8:18:25 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: Texaggie79
People have done criminal acts on nicotine as well....

I suppose so. Should we ban that too?

267 posted on 12/11/2001 8:19:12 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: Texaggie79
Why don't you post with colored words, it would make your experience more trippy.

I'm glad we have mental giants like you around.

268 posted on 12/11/2001 8:20:41 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: Texaggie79
severe hallucination with alcohol? really? Show me documentation.

-------------------------------- Did you really get through college without hearing of delirium tremens in alcoholics?

Strange education.

269 posted on 12/11/2001 8:24:54 PM PST by tpaine
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To: A.J.Armitage
I suppose so. Should we ban that too?

I would vote against it, but states have every constitutional right to do so.

270 posted on 12/11/2001 8:27:24 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: tpaine
Only with withdrawal, not with use.
271 posted on 12/11/2001 8:29:22 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
'prove you can beat your wife without hurting her'

Wow, so you see using crack as harmful to neighbors. Kewl, so we agree then. Glad you finally got it.

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I 'got', - from you, - another infantile attempt to equate smoking crack with wife beating. -- Thanks.

272 posted on 12/11/2001 8:31:27 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
No you did that.
273 posted on 12/11/2001 8:34:19 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
I would vote against it, but states have every constitutional right to do so.

States don't have rights. People do.

Now, nothing the Constitution would stop them, but that doesn't settle the issue. There's nothing in the Constitution to stop states from banning pencils. Don't just say you'd vote aginst it, as if it were just a matter of your personal view. Such laws are unjust, everywhere and always, for everyone.

274 posted on 12/11/2001 8:42:20 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage
"There's nothing in the Constitution to stop states from banning pencils."

See the 14th amendment.

275 posted on 12/11/2001 8:47:57 PM PST by tpaine
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To: A.J.Armitage
God gives people rights, the constitution gives states rights.

And yes states CAN make bad laws that are allowable under the constitution. However, laws that prevent the legal sale of substances that take away people's ability to reason, to choose to stop using the drugs, to see reality, to recognize their kids as their kids and not a secret agent that they decapitate (actual event), or any other necessary inhibition to function as a responsible human.

276 posted on 12/11/2001 8:51:54 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: tpaine
You are the only one that defines the constitution to their liking. The rest of us know it's meaning.
277 posted on 12/11/2001 8:52:48 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
God gives people rights, the constitution gives states rights.

No. Only people can have rights. Governments have powers. And no, the Constitution doesn't give states powers. They already had them by the time the Constitution was adopted.

And yes states CAN make bad laws that are allowable under the constitution.

Are you illiterate? I never said otherwise. What I did say is that there are laws that violate justice, regardless of whether or not they happen to be unConstitutional. That isn't that hard to grasp.

However, laws that prevent the legal sale of substances that take away people's ability to reason, to choose to stop using the drugs, to see reality, to recognize their kids as their kids and not a secret agent that they decapitate (actual event), or any other necessary inhibition to function as a responsible human.

I don't think that parses as a coherent English sentence.

278 posted on 12/11/2001 8:58:28 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage
Only people can have rights.

Look up rights in the dictionary.

  1. Something that is due to a person or governmental body by law, tradition, or nature.

Are you illiterate? I never said otherwise.

Are YOU illiterate? I never said you said otherwise.

I don't think that parses as a coherent English sentence.

Perhaps not for an editor of newsweek but I put several sentences into one because I am to tired to spell it all out. It makes sense.

279 posted on 12/11/2001 9:27:36 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
There is a huge constitutional argument in this country over states powers under the 14th.

Many people here at FR have the same position as I, and in fact, FR is where I first found it.

Your 'communitarian' opinions on the subject, however, really are bizarro fringe stuff.

280 posted on 12/11/2001 9:36:30 PM PST by tpaine
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