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The "Save Bill Maher" Tour Continues
NBC Tonight Show | September 21, 2001 | GreatOne

Posted on 09/21/2001 9:57:41 PM PDT by GreatOne

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To: GreatOne
Those comments fall under "stupid/insensitive." Would you make the argument that defending Clinton should be illegal? Seriously?

And you sir, are the product of... what... Oxford?

61 posted on 09/22/2001 5:15:58 PM PDT by nicknack
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To: nicknack
You are failing to distinguish between making speech "illegal", and private condemnation of "stupid/insensitive" comments, followed by attempts through the free market to persuade others to voluntarily withdraw their financial support which gives the offender the air time to make said comments.

Keep in mind that only government action to restrict speech falls under First Amendment scrutiny (i.e., making it "illegal"). Any private action to restrict speech (i.e., pulling advertising from a show) does not.

Your misconstruing of the two is the evidence of your public education. Quite frankly, your argument (making speech illegal?!?) leads me to believe that you still are in high school, in which case I would suggest you transfer to the nearest Catholic school immediately.

62 posted on 09/22/2001 10:36:25 PM PDT by GreatOne
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To: GreatOne
The creatures @ democrats.com are planning to stage "massive anti-war" protests, as these '60's relics and younger subversives continue with the same kind of stupidity that got us here in the first place.

Freep away.

"It's a difficult time. With so many scarred by the attacks in the US on September 11th, 2001, we look towards justice. But as Ghandi said, "An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind."

That's why Citizens for Legitimate Government, while respecting the need for justice, is planning massive anti-war demonstrations for the duration of this war. Throughout the United States, we must do everything to ensure that not a single innocent person is killed, not one more drop of innocent blood shed, not one more family is left without their loved ones without a reason. We don't want to become our enemy.
Justice yes, mass murder no.

Stay tuned to Citizens for Legitimate Government Actions Forum at for more information on events in your area. If it's a peace vigil, or an anti-war protest, we'll have it posted on our forum, and on this page. If you want to join our Actions Forum and don't have an account, go to http://www.legitgov.org/discus/, in the left column click on "Edit Profile," then "Instant Registration" and enter your name, email address, username and profile. Wait for the email confirmation, and you're all set.

Stay tuned. We will fight against the death of innocents and we will make sure that while justice shall be served (without cruel and unusual punishment,) we don't slaughter another 600,000 people, as in the Gulf War.

Jon Bexell
Action Alerts Committee Co-Chair
Citizens for Legitimate Government

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DEMONSTRATIONS IN U.S.
CLICK HERE for international demonstrations
BOSTON
September 23
Gathering at Copely Square
12:30 - 2 pm
"United We Stand Against the Cycle of Violence"
Sponsored by representatives from: Alliance for a Democratic and Secular South Asia, American Friends Service Committee (AFSC), American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, Boston Coalition for Palestinian Rights, Boston Mobilization, Boston Women's International League for Peace and Freedom (WILPF), Cambridge Peace Commission, CPPAX, Grassroots International, Jewish Women for Justice in Israel/Palestine, Massachusetts Peace Action, VISIONS for Peace with Justice in Israel/Palestine, Women's Action for New Directions (WAND), World Federalists of New England


CHICAGO
Sept. 21 and 28
Gather to defend the Islamic community during Friday's prayers.
12:30 pm - Encircle the mosque at 1245 63rd Street (Corner of 63rd and Homan).
Sept. 23 Peace Vigil 3301 W. Fullerton 6-8 pm
Sept. 25 Silent Prayer Presence at Federal Building (Dearborn and Jackson) sponsored by Eighth Day Center 8am - 9am 312-641-5151
http://chicago.indymedia.org/


NEW HAVEN, CT
Sept. 23
From 2 - 5 pm Peace Vigil and Fundraiser for the Victims and their Families, Chapel and Chapel Sts, organized by Food Not Bombs and CT Green Party 203-430-9342
food.not.bombs@mailcity.com


SAN LUIS OBISPO, CA
Stop the War Drive
3:00 pm, Saturday Sep 22, 2001
Location Mission Plaza
Just bring a sign to walk up and down the plaza. Peaceful and respectful.


DENVER
Sept. 22

Call for Unity: Peaceful Protest Against Racism
Saturday, September 22nd,
11am to 3pm Civic Center Park near Colfax & Broadway
Spoken Word Poetry, Speakers, Music

September 23rd
Interfaith Memorial Service for Victims
Sponsored by the Colorado Council of Churches
Sunday, September 23rd, 2pm Civic Center Park - Amphitheater (14th & Broadway)

Weekly vigil--Every Tuesday
4:30pm to 7pm

Lincoln Park at Colfax & Lincoln
Bring Signs, Banners, Puppets, Drums, etc.

Sept. 29th
Massive Peace March & Rally: Peace with Justice, not War
Saturday, Sept. 29th Time & Location to be announced soon...
Bring Signs, Banners, Puppets, Drums and other creative displays and ideas!
http://www.afsc.org/colorado.htm


LEWISBURG, PA
Vigil & Rally for Peace and Anti-Racism
http://pax.protest.net/day.cgi?limit=25&state_values=ADMISSION_INFO*.Peace
This is a call to end the war before it starts. Yes, it is very late notice, but we weren't exactly expecting to be so close to war so soon. This will also have an anti-racist agenda. We are in a *very* small town and need all the support we can possibly get. We would be very grateful to those who could travel to help us out.


EAU CLAIRE, WI
Tri-State Midwest Rally for Peace September 23
2:00 pm, Sunday Sep 23, 2001
Eau Claire, Wisconsin
Owen Park
Speaker To Be Announced
It is our responsibility as citizens of this democracy to come together and voice broadly felt concerns that have arisen in response to our government's rhetoric and action in respect to the recent terrorist attacks. Americans, as well as millions of others around the world, feel and have felt the horrors of war. It is out of this universal experience and emotional response that we must call for assembly. The time for political discussion, the time to offer our opinions is now, before situations find themselves far worse. You, along with many others can come together to advocate a peaceful, intelligent, and rational response to the recent attacks. We must work to understand why such acts have taken place, to educate the American public on the complexities of American foreign policy and our relationship with the world. Let's gather to discuss what cannot be ignored, and rally for Peace across the globe and safety for ALL innocent people!


MILWAUKEE, WI
Peace Vigils/Demonstrations in Milwaukee at Water St. and Wisconsin Ave.
Tuesdays 5-7PM
The Milwaukee Peace Community (and the various groups of which it is comprised) are holding vigils/demonstrations for peace at Water Street and Wisconsin Avenue, Tuesdays from 5-7PM. We just held one tonight, and will be there next week, and from what I understand, every week thereafter until this issue is resolved.


NEW JERSEY
JUSTICE, NOT WAR!!!!!
5 simultaneous vigils for Friday night, September 21.
Locations and times are as follows:
a. 6:30pm Morristown Green in Morristown, by the fountain on the South Street side -- Vigil Captain is Tim Sevener at (973)586-3043
b. 6:00pm Watchung Plaza in Montclair, corner of Watchung Avenue and Park Street -- Vigil Captain is Joanne Ceraso at (973)746-9576
c. 6:30pm Penn Station in Newark, in the front on the Market Street side -- Vigil Captain is Terri Suess at (973)374-2617
d. 6:30pm Roosevelt Park, Route 1 South, just south of the Menlo Park Mall -- Vigil Captain is Carol Gay at (732)750-5580
e. 6:30pm Journal Square, Jersey City - please contact NJ Peace Action if you'd like to participate and we'll let you know if it materializeS.
We intend to hold these vigils weekly at the same time and the same place from now until the vigils are no longer necessary. We hope that will not be too long, but are prepared for the long haul. Petition for circulation at any and all upcoming events. We ask that people write frequent Letters to the Editor, reflecting our message of Justice, Not War. We will have leaflets prepared for distribution at upcoming events. We are prepared to respond immediately should U.S. bombing begin -- We will meet at our regular vigil points (or at one central location) the next day at 6:00pm (if a weekday) or 12 noon if on a weekend. Please contact the NJ Peace Action office at (973)744-3263 for additional info about fighting the war.
In peace and solidarity, Madelyn Hoffman


PRINCETON, NJ
RAISE YOUR VOICE FOR PEACE!
On Friday, September 21, at 5:30 PM, the Princeton Peace Network is sponsoring a peace action, "Global Citizens Against War," at the Frist Student Center.
The rally will feature speakers from the University and community, including: Prof. Richard Falk, Prof. Frank von Hippel and Dr. Zia Mian.
The Princeton Peace Network is a community of many voices in and around Princeton opposed to a military attack, and the inevitable loss of untold numbers of lives, driven by the current environment of anger and revenge in response to the tragedy of Tuesday, September 11, 2001. Our thoughts are with the friends and families of the victims as well as those targeted by racial hatred and scapegoating. We recognize that Tuesday's tragedy affected a diverse international community. Now is a time for solidarity; there is no "us" and "them." To prevent an escalation of the atrocities, it is imperative that we do not condone inequalities in the value of human life, based on the artificial boundaries of geography, race or religion. Friday's rally will culminate a week of vigils, teach-ins and discussions calling for peace. Raise your voice to help prevent war. You are not alone. Please visit: http://www.geocities.com/princetonpeacenet or email amyshughes@hotmail.com for further information

Albuquerque NM
Procession of Peace
September 21 4:00 pm,
http://pax.protest.net/
A procession for peace starting at the University book store and moving towards Carlisle. It is planned as a peaceful event to counteract the calls for war and escalation.


Troy, NY
Nonviolence Peace Vigil Sept 22
Vigil for Nonviolence and Peace, Not War - No Retaliation, No Escalation
11am-noon at Riverfront Park (near the Uncle Sam statue) in Troy. All welcome! Organized by Rosa House Peace Community; call (518) 272-1468 or e-mail info@rosahouse.org.


NEW YORK
September 22

11a-4p Vision and resistance: where do we go from here?
CHARAS Noon-6pm Create a Street Theatre Play w/The Living Theatre -CHARAS > (Rehearsals thru wed; performances thur-sun 212 969-8905)
4pm Solidarity Vigil Against Racism and War - Union Sq.
7:30p Unsilent Vigil Union Sq to Wash. Sq. boombox@mindspring.com
September 23
Noon-3pm Stand United with Arab and Muslim Sisters and Brothers -Chelsea Piers 23rd St
3pm Memorial Service - Central Park Relocated to Yankee Stadium
TBA Learn the Truth about Palestine, Stand United http://www.al-awda.org/ 212-633-6646
6:30pm Prayers, Plans & Peace: town hall meeting Bkln YWCA
7-10pm WBAI-IN-EXILE COMMUNITY FORUM -PS 321 Park Slope Bkln
September 24
10a-1:30p Victim Solidarity Rally at UN - VoterMarch.org
7-11p WAR, PEACE & the USA Benefit for WBAI in Exile
September 26-28
Wash DC Peace & Justice Forum
September 27-30
The Living Theatre Street Theatre Location TBA
Sept. 29
Noon Anti-War Anti-Racism Rally -the White House IAC 212 633-6646
October 6-7
Peace Demonstration in planning stages

Los Angeles
Anti-war Demonstration
http://la.indymedia.org/index.php3
Saturday the 9/22, at the Westwood Federal Building on Veteran and Wilshire at Noon
There will be a protest to stop the War Moves of the Bush Administration.
The event is sponsored by the Stop The War Coalition.
on September 29th the Coalition for World Peace and The International Action Center are co-sponsoring a demonstration against the war at the Westwood Federal Building at 1pm. For more information go to www.actionla.org/peace


San Diego
http://www.ActivistSanDiego.org
Peace Vigil in San Diego at Horton Plaza Saturday, Sept. 22 at 2:00 PM
If the U.S. uses force before Saturday, there will be a demonstration that day at 5 p.m., at the above location. We are focusing our efforts on these four areas: Condemn attack of September 11 and mourn the victims. Stop the War. Stop racist scapegoating and defend Arab, Muslim and Middle Eastern communities. Defend civil liberties. The coalition will meet again on Monday, September 24, 7 p.m., at the First Church of the Brethren, 3850 Westgate Place.
If you would like to keep in touch with San Diego events, please send e-mail to the Peace Resource Center, prcsandiego@igc.org Please also enclose a regular mailing address!


Atlanta GA
Atlanta Peace Rally: Piedmont Park, October 11, 2001 - 6:00 pm
Atlanta, GA
We want America and the World to know that we support our government, and trust that they will handle this matter in the most prudent manner, minimizing the "collateral damage" to innocent people. The loss of one more innocent life is one too many, but unfortunately, that is sometimes the reality of war. We want America and the World to know that defending our country, and defending freedom, justice and democracy is only one part of a larger puzzle, though an important and essential one. If we kill Bin Laden or those like him, there will be 20 more to replace him. We must relieve the symptoms of evil in this world, yes, but we also must attack the core of this sickness at its roots. Those roots are grounded in ignorance, which must be eradicated via education, loving kindness and compassion. At this critical moment in World history, it is imperative that we have a constructive dialog discussing how we can promote world peace and change the snarled face of the world. We can only over come if we come together, that is what we want to do on Oct. 11th and hereafter. For more information: www.AtlantaPeaceRally.com or Email AtlantaPeaceRally@hotmail.com The webpage is rather rudimentary right now, but it will become very useful within the coming weeks.


WASHINGTON, DC
Come to DC on September 29!!!
WAR AND RACISM ARE NOT THE ANSWER
Sat., Sep. 29, 12 noon, Lafayette Park
International A.N.S.W.E.R. (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism) - a new anti-war coalition - has secured permits for Lafayette Park, the White House sidewalk and for a mass march to the Capitol for Saturday, September 29.


Rhinebeck, NY
Sat. Sept. 22nd 6pm: No More Victims - in front of the Post Office in Rhinebeck, NY (14 Mill Street). Quakers from the Hudson Valley area will be hosting a vigil. The vigil is planned to send the message ?No more victims? and is supported by the Peace & Social Action committee of the Bulls Head-Oswego Monthly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers). Please join with us in praying for a resolution that will end the cycle of violence and retribution and honor all faiths. Contact Greta Mickey e-mail: gem50@hvi.net phone:845-246-8327 for more information.


63 posted on 09/22/2001 10:41:22 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: GreatOne
Wow. How did you manage to cram so many absurdities into one post? Plus the personal shots, inexplicable endorsement for Catholic schools, and just plain bitterness.

Wait a minute. Now it makes sense. You attended one of THOSE Catholic schools, didn't you? You know, where the former staff are currently incarcerated, for the usual offense. Well, some psychotherapy would probably do you a lot more good than insulting strangers on message boards (and strangers a hell of a lot better educated than you, too -- I'll show you my university degress if you show me yours, Junior). And remember, it wasn't your fault. You're the victim here.

God bless you. Take care.

64 posted on 09/23/2001 4:03:00 AM PDT by nicknack
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To: Pegita
RE: your post #58. It's just disgusting. Barbara Olsen died at the hands of Cowards in every sense of the word.

I further conclude that although Maher insists that he supports the military but it is just our elected leadership he is calling 'cowardly' then he is insulting our military as well. He is doing so because GWB is now not just the President of the USA but is not actively the Commander and Chief of our Armed Forces. He IS the military now, AND they seem happy and eager to carry out any commands he sets forth for them in this battle against terrorism. Now why in heaven's name would a military that Maher claims to love and respect ever be so willing and eager to follow a "coward"? His story still doesn't hold water....it just stinks!

I only wish all military who are not so active with carrying out orders right now could or would take the time to write to Maher and ABC to let them know what they think of him. At least all military Freepers should at the very least. At least those who may feel as I do.

Thank goodness for this thread where I can continue to vent!

65 posted on 09/23/2001 8:43:56 PM PDT by WomanofStandard
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