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Events-driven Moderator activities - another look at guidelines
9/21/01 | Lead Moderator

Posted on 09/21/2001 7:49:05 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

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To: Admin Moderator
I'll try again. Does this mean you will be letting Demidog back?
61 posted on 09/21/2001 8:50:53 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: Admin Moderator
Thanks for the clarifications and for all the work y'all do!
62 posted on 09/21/2001 8:51:55 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Extended news means news that has reached a maximum state of arousal. I hope this helps you out.

Maximum state of arousal? Honestly, no, that didn't help and I am more confused. Sorry.

Does this mean it is getting a lot of attention? Like a story that has been around a few days, and now is getting more interest (for example, the WTC bombing)? That is my best guess. Am I warm?

63 posted on 09/21/2001 8:52:16 PM PDT by Silly
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To: SamAdams76

In the four years I've been here, I've never once complained about a post or hit the abuse button.

Same here. The only time I hit "abuse" was when someone posted a pornographic homosexual cartoon. That just had to be reported, in my view. But there is WAY too much "abuse" being hit right now. It is definitely NOT a conservative way of debating.

64 posted on 09/21/2001 8:53:58 PM PDT by Zviadist
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To: nunya bidness
Dude, I like you. But I don't think the question of Demidog was the purpose of the post. You can freepmail me with the details if you desire, but lay off the Admin Moderator.
65 posted on 09/21/2001 8:56:08 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: Zviadist
'rush to hit "abuse" '

... is often a means to get rid of someone who is seriously hurting the stance of someone. We are on to that ruse, as well as the bait and complain sham. There is also the 'rush to deal with abuse' - one problem I personally have encountered is the failure to read far enough, and see these little scams goind on. But, as we learn more about them, I hope all moderators will keep a sharp eye peeled for them, and avoid these kinds of things.

66 posted on 09/21/2001 8:56:35 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: nunya bidness, Jim Robinson, John Robinson
"I'll try again"

Sorry, I'm glad you made that nice and big. I really did not mean to ignore you. Jim, John - please take a look at it and let me know. Sounds to me like there needs to be a relook, and reprieve if you think it is justified.

67 posted on 09/21/2001 8:59:32 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

We are on to that ruse, as well as the bait and complain sham. There is also the 'rush to deal with abuse' - one problem I personally have encountered is the failure to read far enough, and see these little scams goind on. But, as we learn more about them, I hope all moderators will keep a sharp eye peeled for them, and avoid these kinds of things.

Thanks so much, you have made me feel a hundred times better. I don't care about getting thrashed to my face for disagreeing with someone. There are limits, but heated argument is what I signed up for and what I relish. Like many of you, it helps me let off steam and keep my sanity. But it bothers me to think that someone is "informing" on me because they don't agree with what I say. Several people have gloated over the fact that they have just reported me to "abuse" after they have given very much as good as they got in terms of heated debate. That is not cool. I am very glad to see that you are onto that game. We are conservatives, we can take care of ourselves and police ourselves. I have found myself on threads where the debate became just too rude and personal. I decided to switch channels. We all have that possibility.

Have a nice evening and thank you for this post.

68 posted on 09/21/2001 9:03:58 PM PDT by Zviadist
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To: Admin Moderator
Sorry about the big font. I'm on a Mac and it all looks the same to me.
69 posted on 09/21/2001 9:05:06 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
BTW, I can not (as yet) restore posting privileges. That may at some point become an option, if for nothing else but to correct mistakes. It was Jim who banned Demidog, not a moderator. At the same time, Jim has also allowed many that he has banned to come back. To some extent, that depends on the banned - and what assurances they make to avoid future problems.
70 posted on 09/21/2001 9:07:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
THANKS.

Much appreciate the lessening of my ignorance.

Will earnestly try to follow. Please feel free to delete wherever I mindlessly forget or am unaware of a proper application of such guidelines.

71 posted on 09/21/2001 9:09:29 PM PDT by Quix
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To: Admin Moderator, Sidebar Moderator
Now, now. No need to fight <VBG>.
72 posted on 09/21/2001 9:11:09 PM PDT by steveegg (If you can't trust the moderators, why can you trust :-)
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To: Conservobabe
I think the U.N. article that you're referring to was pulled from breaking news because it was already posted several times today. The original posting of the article is here:

AMERICA-BASHING U.N. SHOULD GET LOST (Boy! Is She Mad)

73 posted on 09/21/2001 9:12:03 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Admin Moderator
Not really in reply to the noted post, but on-topic.

By definition, what EXACTLY (generally?) constitutes a "flame-war"? (I'll take answers from anyone)

All day yesterday, a particular poster was arguing with me about stuff he would take out of context, would dismiss all points made to refute him as "inane" or "silly". I did make a generalization about those with his particular ideological bent. I subsequently withdrew the statement and apologized, then he whined about how my apology was "insincere" and continued with what MIGHT have been personal attacks. I have pretty thick skin, so I don't sweat stuff like that, but the thread quickly disintegrated.

74 posted on 09/21/2001 9:12:18 PM PDT by TheRealLobo
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To: TheRealLobo
Sounds like you just described a one-sided flame war.
75 posted on 09/21/2001 9:14:47 PM PDT by steveegg
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To: Zviadist, admins
I've only hit abuse once and it was because a person's home phone number and home address were posted along with the pungent column they wrote.

I wasn't disagreeing with the FReeper about the rotten article but, after the Mia Lawrence (Chuy's waitress that fingered Jenna Bush) controversy, I didn't think it wise to invite anyone to call this jerk at his home. Office phone numbers and addresses are okay by me, but that "I know where you live" bit is beyond the pale.

Frankly, when I encounter bigots and idiots here, I'd just as soon point out their foolishness rather than have them censored. I can see why, however, many would rather not risk offending innocent bylurkers by letting garbage linger.

It can't be an easy job sifting through all that gets posted. My eyes blur sometimes just on one thread - particularly the ones that collapse into the same old 20 or so ongoing arguments (creation/evolution, WOD/drug legalization, government/individual liberty, etc etc).

76 posted on 09/21/2001 9:15:41 PM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: Admin Moderator
Fine. Do what you have to do. In the meantime we'll all just wait.
77 posted on 09/21/2001 9:15:55 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: Zviadist
"but heated argument is what I signed up for and what I relish"

Well, watch how 'heated' it is (-:

What some might consider ‘heated argument’ others would call an ugly flame-war. Better to be thoughtful and persuasive, offering incisive (so sharp as to cause mental pain) argument rather than anything that belittles the opponent. I’m sure you relish that, more than some need to bash others over the head with insult, right?

78 posted on 09/21/2001 9:16:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Storm Orphan
anti-religious bigotry

You mean anti-Islamic bigotry, or maybe anti-Wiccan or anti-Hindu bigorty.

Anti-Christian bigotry has always had a warm and welcome place at FR.

79 posted on 09/21/2001 9:19:38 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: steveegg
"If you can't trust the moderators, wh[o] can you trust :-)"

ROTFLOL... (we are little different from others - we have disagreements too... but, we're all trying the best we know how. Overall, I'm very impressed with how hard all of them try, and how hard they all work - they are all great people. If I may be so bold as to blow the horn a bit for them.)

80 posted on 09/21/2001 9:23:04 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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