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Make no mistake: America far from innocent
http://www.mndaily.com/story.php?date=20010920&storyID=3789 ^ | 9/20/01 | Scott Laderman

Posted on 09/20/2001 7:57:51 AM PDT by Solson

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I am so furious I can barely type. Unfortunately, this is the prevailing attitude at our colleges and universities across America. Will anyone stand up to these f*cks?
1 posted on 09/20/2001 7:57:52 AM PDT by Solson
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To: Solson
Scott Osama-bin-Laderman.
2 posted on 09/20/2001 8:00:51 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Solson
You forgot to put Barf Alert in the header.
3 posted on 09/20/2001 8:01:29 AM PDT by Jerrbear
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To: Solson
And while it is critical the perpetrators of last week’s attacks be brought to justice, this must be done in accordance with human rights principles, humanitarian law, and international criminal procedures.

See what all your hard earned dollars have bought you, Mr. and Mrs. Laderman? A college educated moron.

4 posted on 09/20/2001 8:04:44 AM PDT by riley1992
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To: Solson
I nominate this nice young gentlemen for a position as a front-line CNN war correspondent!
5 posted on 09/20/2001 8:05:12 AM PDT by BlueNgold
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To: Solson

An Irishman's Diary

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OPINION/Kevin Myers

One week ago, for the last day for years to come, we woke to a morning in which the world was not at war. That day is now done, and the issue before us is actually quite simple.

Which side are we on? If we show doubt, then we tell the foes of civilisation to keep pushing; the door is not locked. It's not complicated. Terrorists anywhere must now be told that finally Ireland will stand four square against terrorism.

There are no extenuating circumstances for the Manhattan and Pentagon holocausts, any more than there are extenuating circumstances for what happened to Europe's Jews, and others, 60 years ago.

To be sure, there is a history to all events; but to deploy that history as mitigation or justification or contextualisation for mass murder is to fall for the homicidal, self-pitying babble which all misanthropic psychopaths indulge in.

World freedom

Osama Bin Laden is an Islamic fascist who loathes the West, democracy, Christianity, Judaism. His every project is about the taking of human life. Of course he loathes the US. Why wouldn't he? The US is the primary defender of world freedom.

That freedom is one we enjoy. From 1941 onwards in one war, and through the many years of the colder one which followed, we lived within the American imperium; without that protection, we would today be speaking German, and no doubt ruled by Sinn Féin gauleiters, or be an Atlantic Albania, communist and pauperised.

How a visceral hatred of the US has become so chic, so commonplace in Irish bien-pensant circles is a true mystery to me. Perhaps it is political immaturity, but that alone would not explain the frequency with which we give platitudinous lectures to those who guard us and our common values.

Nor does it explain the frequency with which we not merely tolerate lies about the US, but actually revel in them: such risible canards as that the US armed Saddam, that US policies are causing Iraqi children to die of hunger, or that US policy in the Middle East has been totally one-sided.

Saddam's army was Soviet-equipped. Iraqi children die because he is diverting money to his army, which our Government once went to such trouble to provide with beef - remember? Without vast US aid, Egypt would long ago have slid into the Nile and been washed away; similarly, Jordan.

Without US diplomacy, they would still be locked in perpetual war with Israel. Until a year ago, the US was doing its best to broker a deal between the PLO and Israel; and the absolutist forces which rejected the most generous offer that any Israeli government could offer the Palestinians, and still survive the opinions of its electorate, are represented most admirably by the butchers of Manhattan.

Not a "victim"

Their leader, Osama Bin Laden, is not a "victim". Nor are his deranged followers. The people responsible for the war crimes in the US come from prosperous, well-educated Arab families; they do not come from the West Bank and Gaza. Their decision to kill thousands of people was not based on anything to do with personal experience, but simply on race hatred.

Nor is their decision to kill themselves a measure of a supposedly "Muslim" devotion to a cause, but merely another example of cultic suicide, such as we have repeatedly seen from "Christians" in recent years at Waco, in Guyana, in Switzerland.

To be sure, there are inconsistencies, failures, inadequacies in many US policies; this is because the US government is composed of human beings. But I would far rather have US policy with all its weaknesses than have to endure the sanctimonious posturing of the professional US-bashers of Irish life.

We are in morally the weakest position of any country in Europe to be making such noises: for we have deliberately chosen to have a defence policy of no-defence, and instead of staying gratefully silent beneath the umbrella of cost-free protection, we have repeatedly bawled pious homilies into our protectors' ears about the immorality of umbrellas.

This diseased and querulous neutralism has so contaminated our political life that our political leaders never dared confront it head on. That failure led to the rejection of the the Nice Treaty - to the delight, of course, of the morally lazy and intellectually torpid greens of both varieties - the tree-huggers and the kneecappers.

Essential values

More than human beings perished in last week's attacks; so too did the fence beneath us. Now we should finally accept that Europe and the US stand for the same essential values: the rule of law, of free speech, free trade, free association, free thought.

These are values not just worth defending verbally, but by military alliance as well, with all the compromises such alliances mean.

The road ahead will be hard, but it is not a road of US choosing. No major power anywhere could accept such a slaughter as Manhattan and not reply. The US is the greatest democracy in the world, under whose protection all other democracies have flourished. It is time for us to acknowledge that.

In the coming conflict, no doubt mistakes will be made - though I would trust a regime which includes such heavyweights as Powell, Cheney and Rice to make as few as humanly possible.

All the US wants to know now is that when the going gets tough, as it truly will, it will not be treated to vapid holier-than-thouisms from beyond its shores. It needs to know who its shoulder-to-shoulder friends are.

Well, here's one

6 posted on 09/20/2001 8:05:36 AM PDT by Smedley
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To: BlueNgold
The world is filled with people educated beyond their intelligence.
7 posted on 09/20/2001 8:06:57 AM PDT by BlueNgold
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To: Solson
It's idiots like this that keep Wellstone in office.
8 posted on 09/20/2001 8:07:46 AM PDT by HennepinPrisoner
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Long active in issues of peace and social justice, I hope my column will address matters pertaining to domestic politics and international relations, marginalized communities in the United States, and the social and political aspects and implications of film, television and other elements of popular culture.

This about sums up this dude rather well once you do the equations....SOCIAL JUSTICE...PEACE..MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES..SOCIAL AND POLITICAL ASPECTS OF IMPLICATIONS...double speak for SOCIALIST.

9 posted on 09/20/2001 8:08:12 AM PDT by Neets
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To: HennepinPrisoner
wellstoned probably wrote this for him...
10 posted on 09/20/2001 8:09:01 AM PDT by Solson
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We can't let a minority of these leftist pricks get to us. Evidently little Scottie lost no one close to him on September 11. He is so removed from the real world that he can't judge. We will see many young people that will think like this in the coming weeks. They have not lived long enough to realize what a great country we have, I hope they get the opportunity to learn.
11 posted on 09/20/2001 8:09:40 AM PDT by sibb1213
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To: riley1992
WELL, SAID!!!!! A mind filled with "facts" that cannot be supported by TRUTH....a mind bent and shaped by leftist propaganda, and a weak kneed twirp who, while living off our milk and honey, never faced anything more difficult in his life than finding the TV remote.
12 posted on 09/20/2001 8:09:56 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Solson

Please pass these out before posting something like this.

MKM

13 posted on 09/20/2001 8:12:03 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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This boy needs freeped! And big time! He's taken the ol' Blame America movement to new heights of liberal stupidity!

Right from start with the Kyoto Proto' B.S. to the last words of socialist trash!

I'm not going to waste time refuting Him here, but I will be firing him off a nice e-mail!

I truly think this is the time to expose these traitors! Not just for disagreeing with somethings as that's their Godgiven right! But their over all treachery to the United States of America and the Freedom they enjoy because of the blood of so many who stood tall for their God & Country...

14 posted on 09/20/2001 8:12:24 AM PDT by GeorgeWashington777
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I've gotta admit it--I stopped reading as soon as I came to the tripe about the Kyoto treaty being kyboshed by Bush. How many nations have signed the treaty? Does the number still stand at ONE??! I assumed, after having read up to that point, that absolutely no intelligent thought would be following.
15 posted on 09/20/2001 8:13:30 AM PDT by grellis
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To: BlueNgold
************ OPERATION INFINITE FReedom ****************

Also known as the war on the PC police and the left.

My letter to the editor:

Subject line: Congradulations! You have helped make Minnesota the laughing stock as the "cowards" state

To all the readers,

I find your columinsts just slightly to the left of 1970 Jane Fonda. Why don't you have your editorial writers and go ask for autographs from these murderers? Hell, why don't you just give them Pymouth or Mankato for their U.S. headquarters. That way the terrorists will have the right to "free speech" and a group of newspapers that is much more favorable to your point of view. I feel for the good people of Minnesota who don't believe in this garbage. Most of all, I hope someone sends these leftist reporters and columnists of yours to NYC to personally look at the body bags. All 5000 plus of them.

Sincerely,
A very upset American

P.S. Keep your left wing tourist dollars. We do not want your kind in our state of Florida.
16 posted on 09/20/2001 8:15:58 AM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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How does the view of this guy differ from the view of this one?
17 posted on 09/20/2001 8:16:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus
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Man, I read this today -- and it makes me sick to think that a student at the school I attended would write this stuff.

I guess that it's to be expected. After all, this is the same University of Minnesota where professors hassle members of the military. That would include the experience I had as an Army ROTC cadet. An English Lit prof blasted me one day (had my uniform on) for being the root of all evil in the world. "People like you," she said "are the real problem."

This is also the same LAND GRANT UNIVERSITY that has for years had a raging debate about the presence of ROTC and the fact that the military policy on homosexuals does not comply with the University's EO policy.

The place is a bastion of Clinton voting, sandal wearing, tree hugging, veggie eating, flag burning socialists.

18 posted on 09/20/2001 8:16:50 AM PDT by AlaninSA
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To: Solson
The same people who accuse a raped woman of "asking for it".
19 posted on 09/20/2001 8:17:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: grellis
Somebody remind Saderman and the rest of these people that Hitler retionalized a million reasons for attacking Jews. It diodn't make him right.
20 posted on 09/20/2001 8:17:51 AM PDT by mgist
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