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Pakistani ex-general warns of uprising, war - Says US asks, is Pakistan is on their side or China's
Reuters ^ | 9-17-01

Posted on 09/19/2001 1:06:17 PM PDT by tallhappy

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To: Travis McGee
When was the last time we suffered a military defeat at the hands of the Apache. Ok when was the last time our government was forced into something by an Apache government. My sense is that the brass band bagged enough deer to call it a day.

No I don't advocate killing Apache, just seems that your point is somewhat dull.

We are not interested in conquest, we are interested in killing people that want to come to our territory and kill us.

41 posted on 09/20/2001 7:22:11 PM PDT by Steven R. Schick
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To: WRhine
>>The U.S. can't "dominate" Asia nor should we try. Having influence in our part of the world, Europe, and the Middle East is enough.

That's just what China wants, slowly pushing the US out of Asia...

>>And in regard to Asia I'll put my money on a capitalist Japan to keep a communist China and her growing global ambitions in check.

I think China will be happy to see that. It is much easier for China to deal with Japan than with the US.

42 posted on 09/20/2001 7:42:55 PM PDT by Lake
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To: Lake
I think China will be happy to see that. It is much easier for China to deal with Japan than with the US.

Read up on WWII and Japan's death marches into China and Korea. A militarily strong Japan is China's worst nightmare. The risk to us is that Japan makes the same mistake twice.

43 posted on 09/20/2001 7:55:37 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: WRhine
>>. A militarily strong Japan is China's worst nightmare

How strong can Japan be? No matter how strong a westernized Japan be, it will never match a CCP-ruled China. If the US is out of Asia, the PLA will soon march on Taiwan AND Tokyo.

44 posted on 09/20/2001 8:23:29 PM PDT by Lake
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To: Lake
How strong can Japan be? No matter how strong a westernized Japan be, it will never match a CCP-ruled China. If the US is out of Asia, the PLA will soon march on Taiwan AND Tokyo.

First of all, unless I am missing something, the US is not in Asia to begin with so I don't understand what you are driving at. Second, while Japan has never had the capacity of taking out China entirely it was strong enough to invade large areas of China's territory during WWII and proved to be a fearsome foe to their army. Moreover, if Japan didn't mess with the USA it would be still controlling much of those territories today. Which is why I believe a stronger Japan is in our best interests given China's growing belligerence. I would not have said this even 5 years ago but since China was able to turn a corrupt U.S. president (read Clinton) into a willing participant of China's highjacking of U.S. military secrets I feel they need some good old Asian competition to keep them off balance.

45 posted on 09/20/2001 8:53:34 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: WRhine
Allow me to be even more emphatic. Japan may well be the "UK" of East Asia in a future conflict. The sooner we
realize that Japan MUST be miltarily of OVEREHLMING STRENGTH, the better off we'll all be for it!
(FreepMail me if you would like to discuss some ideas and contacts I know of on this matter...there is an effort
going on behind the scenes, reported not at all by the US media, to make this happen. It involves a prominent
Tokyo think tank and a small but determined cadre of insightful Americans)
46 posted on 09/21/2001 10:05:16 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: belmont_mark
Corr.... "OVERWHELMING"
47 posted on 09/21/2001 10:09:16 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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You Have FreepMail.
48 posted on 09/21/2001 8:40:44 PM PDT by WRhine
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