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Sinn Fein attacks US as war on terrorism hits home
The Daily Telegraph ^ | September 17, 2001 | David Sharrock

Posted on 09/16/2001 11:19:36 PM PDT by MadIvan

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To: Norn Iron, spectre, MadIvan
Let's hope there are no links between Bin Laden and Adams.

The [Self-styled] "ira" -- in reality nothing more nor less than an obscene gutless mass-murdering marxist-hitlerist criminal gang -- has been the closest of friends and allies of the mid east branches of mass-murderers-united for decades.

122 posted on 09/17/2001 1:27:37 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: MadIvan
I hope Bush gets those that terrorized the Irish school girls.
123 posted on 09/17/2001 1:31:36 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: All
Following is a list of Leftist/Marxist/Communist Celtic nationalist organizations that are supported by many anti-Israel "conservatives" because their leftism/terror benefits "aryans":

Social Democratic and Labour Party THE Catholic party in Northern Ireland.

Provisional Sinn Fein

The Workers Party (originally Official Sinn Fein)

Republican Sinn Fein (the front for the Continuity Irish Republican Army). Also This appears to be a newer site.

The 32 County Sovereignty Movement This is the front of the "Dissident" or "Real" Irish Republican Army (the site has apparently been down for some time).

The Irish Republican Socialist Movement The front for the extreme Marxist-Leninist Irish National Liberation Army. Their "blackout" for the "working class victims" of American policy sounds like Pat Buchanan and is especially obscene.

Irish People's Liberation Organisation (IPLO) As far as I know they have no website. They are or were a "rightwing" (rightwing from a Marxist perspective) splinter group from the INLA.

Workers Solidarity Movement A classical socialist anarchist group, representing a prominent strain of classical Irish radicalism.

The Scottish National Party This avowed leftist, pro-homosexual, anti-gun party (supported by Sean Connery) is admired by many "paleoconservative" advocates of a restored Southern Confederacy. The paleos always have had a thing for Scotland, and Scottish symbolism forms the ritual and ceremonial of the Ku-Klux Klan(y'sh"v).

The Scottish Socialist Party

The Scottish Republican Socialist Party See also here. Hoo-boy. Another example of rugged Celtic individualism as opposed to "collectivistic" Jewish and English international bankers.

The Scottish Sovereignty Group This website, a front for the illegal, violent, and ultra-radical Scottish National Liberation Army was taken down by their web host for violating its standards.

Plaid Cymru (The Party of Wales) Originally an antisemitic, "rightwing" distributivist party it is now standard leftwing socialist. Another favorite of the Confederates as an example of how to resist a "Yankee" oppressor.

Cymru Annibynnol (Independent Wales Party) See also Wales Forever.

Cymru Goch (Red Wales) From here you can also access Y Faner Goch (The Red Flag), their official publication.

Mybyon Kernow (The Party for Cornwall) Oh, surely Cornish nationalism isn't socialist!!! Wrong-o. Sorry, all you Celt individualists out there.

Emgann Et tu, Brittany??? I'm afraid so!!!

Mec Vannin (Manx Nationalist Party) This site also includes their publication, Yn Pabyr Seyr. I did have some hopes for the Manx nationalists, but it seems they are very much for legislation outlawing "sexual discrimination."

Parti Quebecois This Socialist International member party is another special favorite and model of neo-Confederates. But if good white people want socialism, that's their business.

Bloque Nacionalista Galego (Galician Nationalist Block) Although their language is a dialect of Portuguese, many include them among the Celtic nations.

Now--my intention in posting these links and comments has not been to hurt anyone's feelings, but to point out the hypocrisy of identifying rightwingery, conservatism, or anti-socialism with "white northwestern European man," and especially the hypocrisy of attacking Israel as "socialist" or attacking Jews as somehow genetically radical. And as with the Arabs, the Celtic Communists are heroes to anti-Jewish "anti-Cummunists" and "conservatives." This hypocrisy should be exposed for what it is.

P.S. I am neither British, Protestant, nor Unionist.

124 posted on 09/17/2001 3:40:48 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: ex-snook
The little school girls are being bayed at by angry loyalists and they are being 'marched' to school by a terrorist cop-killer, someone who has done time in the Republic of Ireland for possession of illegal guns. Either way the little girls have got a very raw deal. That's the gut side of NI politics.
125 posted on 09/18/2001 2:08:23 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Labels are often misleading. You've described the SDLP as NI's Catholic party whereas it's a party dedicated to the unification of the two jurisdictions on the island of Ireland. It just so happens that most of its members are Catholic. It would also be a mistake to think of it as a Labour Party - it is more of a blend of social democrat and conservative.

The SDLP has almost been overtaken by by the 'sanitised' SF/IRA [terrorists in suits] and John Hume, its leader has just resigned on health grounds. Revelations about SF/IRA, FARC and Castro won't have done his health any good because John is the one who brought Ireland's mini-Bin Laden in from the cold - but unrepentent.

126 posted on 09/18/2001 2:17:56 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Brian Allen
Perhaps it's better simply to think of them as people who are dedicated to a political goal and are prepared to use terror to attain it.

Bin Laden and his followers are the most extreme we've seen so far but that's because they are the most fanatical and ruthless.

Adams and his followers are not quite so ruthless or self-sacrificing but let's not forget they almost wiped out the UK government with the Brighton bomb and bombed the financial institutions.

127 posted on 09/18/2001 2:28:29 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: MadIvan
I think most of us know who are real friends are now, MadIvan, and I, for one, will never make a crack at England again if she continues to stand by us as she has been.

Thanks for the flag.

128 posted on 09/18/2001 3:53:32 AM PDT by riley1992
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To: Norn Iron, MadIvan
Perhaps it's better simply to think of them as people who are dedicated to a political goal and are prepared to use terror to attain it.

Why would I think that of them when it is patently not true? They are nothing more nor less than a marxist-fascist criminal gang addicted and dedicated to nothing more nobel that the love of the anonymous, gutless murder of innocents -- wherever they may be found!

Adams and his followers are not quite so ruthless or self-sacrificing but let's not forget they almost wiped out the UK government with the Brighton bomb and bombed the financial institutions.

The government of Great Britain is no more comprised of the puny folks who temporarily occupy its offices than is our own. It is a government of Laws.

And the marxist-fascist ira gang's targeting of banks and the financial institutions betrays only their envy, hatred and rage toward any who can earn an honest living; their hatred, obscene criminal greed and lust to get their hands on the money of all and any who have earned it -- and their failed and dead and decadent marxist-hitlerist roots.

129 posted on 09/18/2001 6:34:06 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: Brian Allen
Great Britain isn't a state, it's the major part of the UK

Sinn Fein-IRA is a mixture of conservatives and socialists of the more extreme varieties.

The economic targets are chosen by the bombers to send a message to the UK government to remove NI from the UK and let it be united with the RoI to form a UI. A bomb in London is a far stronger and more effective message than one in Belfast. Innocent people get killed in these attacks and the bombers don't care too much if they do.

Some actions taken by the Government let to a growth in SF/IRA attacks because the Government hadn't thought through the consequences of its actions. The end result was that more innocent people died but the terrorist capability was not reduced. Hence the need for caution on Bush's part.

130 posted on 09/18/2001 8:51:49 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Norn Iron
TFundamentally the terrorist sinn-ira-fein gang is marxist-hitlerist totalitarian-fascist and I know a bit about Great Britain -- and what is now its British Ulster Province. My ancestors escaped from thereabouts a couple of hundred years ago. For New Zealand. [Love your page, by the way -- and am named after one of your kings! FReegards -- Boru]
131 posted on 09/18/2001 9:11:36 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: Brian Allen
NI isn't a province of GB, it's part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Perhaps you are confusing GB with Britain, the name often used as a shorthand for the UK mouthful.

Irish nationalists don't accept this arrangement and SF/IRA use terror to break the connection.

Click UK in the USA for more information PS You're not Brian Boru from the Bog of Allen by any chance?!!

132 posted on 09/18/2001 9:46:00 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: MadIvan
Paisley is not a good example for democrats to follow. He has been too closely identified with loyalist terrorists. Many saw him as their inspirational leader in the early days and then condemned him when he took off out of the road when the going got hot. His nickname is the Grand Old Duke of York

Mr. David Trimble (Upper Bann): On behalf of my colleagues in the Ulster Unionist party and, I think, of the people of Northern Ireland in general, may I first associate myself with the Prime Minister's comments expressing our condolences to the American people and to all those who have been bereaved and injured in the events of the past few days? May I also underline and agree with the Leader of the Opposition's comments, in which he pointed out that we have seen the worst act of terrorism inflicted on the British people since the last war? It is quite right, therefore, that, along with our allies, we should seriously contemplate what the appropriate action is.

One other comment comes very much to mind. I recall reading in the media after the event a number of commentators quoting the rather macabre words issued by an Irish Republican spokesman after the IRA had attempted to wipe out the Cabinet, when he said, "You have to be lucky all the time; we only have to be lucky once." I found it unfortunate that some people were quoting that as if it were an accurate comment, which of course it is not. It was a deliberately crafted statement intended to amplify the terror and to give people the sense that they were helpless and that terrorism would inevitably succeed. That is quite wrong and it is important, in all we say and do, that we underline the fact that it is wrong.

Terrorism will not succeed. It can be beaten, although not easily. It requires careful intelligence. The Father of the House was right to point out that, as far as possible, we want to avoid inflicting injury on any innocent people, and that is why intelligence is crucial. However, we need the correct application of that intelligence, which has to be taken over time. We will, of course, entirely support the Government when we come to take what the Prime Minister calls appropriate action. He is right to underline the fact that that action has to be determined, and that it will take time and be continued over time. There will be no quick fix, but it is important that the menace be dealt with properly and, as he says, that the machinery of terrorism be destroyed.

I want to underline one other specific aspect of the statement--the need for us to look again at how we deal with terrorism and, in particular, at how terrorist groups are financed and their money laundered. We need to consider the links between terror and crime and between terrorist organisations. We will have to examine that closely and carefully. If we can somehow take out the sinews of this terrorist conflict, we will make the task of defeating terror that much easier.

133 posted on 09/18/2001 10:01:18 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: MadIvan
Point of information: During WWII, the IRA sided with Nazi Germany to conincide with their opposition to England. In asking a friend from Belfast and IRA supporter about this he responded, "Well of course we did." ...this is the type of "freedom fighters" they really are.
134 posted on 09/18/2001 10:12:41 AM PDT by labusiness
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To: Norn Iron
PS You're not Brian Boru from the Bog of Allen by any chance?!!

That's what me Mum called me when she wanted to share a laugh or two.

[Molloy and the Danes and the Vikings, on the other hand, called me by different names -- and didn't much laugh about it!]

HehHehHeh

135 posted on 09/18/2001 10:51:57 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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