Posted on 09/14/2001 1:30:09 AM PDT by ouroboros
The legitimate greviences of the middle east are few and far between. None of them justify terrorism, because terrorism just delays resolution of the Palestinian situation.
Holy War is one of the singularly screwball ideas of history. Christians tried it a thousand years ago, had a few initial successes, and eventually got severly thumped. Christians don't try to spread their beliefs by violent force anymore. It's a matter of growing up as a culture.
We do not need to level any countries. But we need to severly thump those who support holy war.
He is standing by what he wrote. And exactly what is 'vile' about it. The part about punishing the terrorists who attacked us? The part about not killing innocent people? Maybe the part about how this country's constant intrevention into the affairs of other nations contributed to us becoming targets?
One good thing that could come out of this mess is that, after the terrorists and their supporters die a horrible death, we hold the gov't responsible for failing to defend us (one of the few constitutionally-authorized responsibilities of the fed gov't) and we start ending our meddling in the affairs of other countries.
Think about it, a U.S. gov't that has the power to stick its nose into the business of any country on earth is ALWAYS going to have the power to stick its nose into YOUR business, and mine.
Amen!
"Those who fail to learn from history, will repeat it."
Everyone with a functional brain knows that ignoring the criminals WILL NOT make them go away. Only gutless cowards DO NOTHING.
Would that apply to us in the case of the decimated aspirin factory? the cluster bombing of innocent civilians in Serbia? Iraq?
I guess when we use our military might to control political events in other nations (or distract attention from the corruption of our own government), it is a righteous "new world order" and and every man woman and child should be damn grateful we are stuffing it to them. When a few are less than grateful, and retaliate, they are all terrorists and must be wiped from the face earth.
This tragedy and attack took place in this country. This did not take place in some foreign land. Am I to believe that the first concern should be for revenge and to hell with any security or safety concerns of the remainder of our people here in the United States? Does anybody think that this group that pulled these attacks are the only terrorists that made it into this country?
We better take care of our own and round up the remaining terrorists in our own country as part of the revenge mentality. There is no sweeter revenge than to catch a group that are plannubg death and destruction before they have the opportunity to do so. The public should decide what can be done in the area of internal security and act accordingly.
Do thousands of illegal aliens pouring across our borders seem like national security? Do thousands of illegal aliens of every nationality within this country with no documentation of any kind sound like a good idea? Does training of pilots of every nationality on our own air bases soundx like good national security? Does bringing China over to explain our traffic control system so they can go back to every terrorist nation and brief them on our control system indicate good security? While we have thousands of troops all over the world, does leaving our power stations, dams, water treatment plants, public transportation systems, and other infastructure unguarded seem to be a reasonable thing to be doing? Does disarming the public which has been the cornerstone of a political faction in the Congress sound like a good idea in the wake of a terrorist war against the United States?
We had a good security system in place during WW II because it was a necessity. There were only a handful of sabotuers that made it through our defenses. There is no reason we can't have the same at this time. We are starting behind the eight ball because we have been so lax and thousands of potential enemy are here but they can be rounded up with the cooperation of local citizens. Let's get on the ball and get some security in this country and the terrorist revenge will take care of itself.
If we can disable Bin Laden's organization in this country, we can get him eventually. If we continue to let him operate through cells in this country, we are just playing with his rules and he will strike again. Get security conscious!
Dittoes and bump
To the best of my knowledge, Serbia neither attacked us nor gave aid and comfort to anyone who attacked us. They were in the middle of a civil war -- perhaps behaving badly, but within their own boarders.
If the aspirin factory had been what we called it, yes, I'd support bombing it.
Other countries have legitimate gripes against us. Fine. Take it to court.
Germany had legitimate grievances in 1930, us I doubt that Hitler could have been reasoned with. Just because someone has legitimate gripes doesn't make them sane and reasonable.
In the meantime, the Republicans and Democrats will use this week's events simply to justify ever more bloated budgets while silencing any talk of significant tax cuts. Why Americans continue to reward the Demo-Republican alliance for doing such a lousy job at everything they touch is beyond my comprehension.
He said the same things in his 1992 campaign. He was the first, the leading, and for the most part, the ONLY significant political figure that has called for a change in our military to be defensive, not aggressive. He has long advocated the majority of our military budget should be spent defending our borders, building a missle defense system, and preventing terrorism. He also was the first to advocate the assassinating of terrorists and their leaders that kill americans, instead of the usual civilian retalliation bombing of foreign cities.
Everyone else talking today about terrorism is a "Johnny Come Lately". We should have listened to Harry Brown 10 years ago. Instead of deploying our troops all over the world in over 100 different countries under clinton, we should have instead defended our borders from terrorism and attack.
Come on Harry... This is a cultural war. Radical Islam doesn't like Western Civilization. Look at France.. They've fallen over and kissed the ass of every terrorist country in the world, yet they still get bombed by em...
Now a case can be made that we made a mistake in the late 1940s by throwing our support behind the creation of Israel, which seems to be one of the biggest reasons the Islamic countries hate us.
Now if Harry Browne were President and enacted his foreign policy lets say and the radical Islamic nations are on the verge of overruning Israel and the Jews asked for our help. Not troops but military supplies; would President Browne refuse on the grounds that our foreign policy must remain neutral???
Dittos!! except it is now millions flooding into our country, not thousands.Furthermore, as a policy started under clinton, our immigration offices have been forced to stop doing background checks which used to prevent criminals from coming over here.
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