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A Letter to My Fellow FReepers
self | Thursday, September 13, 2001 | Kristinn

Posted on 09/13/2001 11:54:38 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: kristinn
I can't figure out why you'd even bother to want to criticize him at this time.We know so little, pretend to know so much, and feel our passions can somehow confirm our knowledge.So, give your post a rest.It was pointless, and while I can sympathize with a mind trying to make sense of the events coming up with loopy scenarios, I sure don't advocate putting them to paper.

Save it for another time.

101 posted on 09/14/2001 1:39:24 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Lazamataz
This is a season for a heartsick nation to mourn our fallen and commend our heroes. Details will surface soon enough, but they won't fill empty chairs at dinner tables. Buildings can be reconstructed; broken families cannot." --
Pat Buchanan.

Thanks for singling that out; I'd missed it. I'll wipe my eyes now.

Dan

102 posted on 09/14/2001 1:43:16 PM PDT by BibChr
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To: kristinn
"Thank you for reading this."

I wish I had not read it. It made me sick.

104 posted on 09/14/2001 2:13:47 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: Revel
BTTT ... callin' CWOJackson's putrescence what it is.
105 posted on 09/14/2001 2:27:57 PM PDT by That Poppins Woman
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To: tex-oma, demidog, Derville
Bump
106 posted on 09/14/2001 2:33:33 PM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: kristinn
Why were all passenger flights grounded for almost three days since the attacks so that new security procedures could be put in place?

No. There could be other hijack teams out here in the USA, waiting.

If our air traffic safety was so secure before, why is there a perceived problem now ? Could it be that it wasn't really that safe ?

This has never ever been a safe world. All safety and control is an illusion.

Where were our intelligence services ?

The FBI raided several Arab webboards' participants last week.

Why did we have Clinton holdover DCI, George Tenent, doing the work of the Secretary of State in the Middle East instead of cleaning up the wreckage of the past eight years ?

Because either Bush hasn't gotten around to nominating a replacement, or the Congresscritters have stalled the process.

How is it that foreign terrorists can go to flight school in the U.S., plot and carry out a complicated, coordinated massive assault involving several dozen conspirators against two vital American facilities without being detected ?

Because America trains them. Its called Security Assistance. Its part of our foreign policy. Much of "foreign aid" manifests itself in the form of grants for armaments and training.

How is it that four hijacked planes flew unmolested and unchallenged by neither our air traffic control system or our military ?

Good question.

107 posted on 09/14/2001 2:35:54 PM PDT by That Poppins Woman
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To: kristinn
One thumb up and one thumb down. Certainly the rhetoric on FR has been bad, but, I am not surprised. While some use FR for reasoned discourse, many others use it mainly to vent and prove how ignorant they are. Events such as we've seen the last few days tend to magnify the end of each spectrum. There is little hope of containing it without critically injuring the Forum.

As far as the rest, I've found that those more interested in placing blame than finding a solution are usually harboring an agenda...supporting/denigrating the GOP, Libertarians, Buchanan, Keyes, Klayman, etc. The hysteria is the same, all that changes is the hat. Generally, I have no use for them.

108 posted on 09/14/2001 2:40:59 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: kristinn
Monsterous post. BTTT.
109 posted on 09/14/2001 2:45:14 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Bob J
Hiya Bob...it's been a while since we have talked.

Right now, IMO, there will be no return to reasoned discourse until the immediate shock and anger has been vented. This is understandable.

A tremendous number of people are learning that they have a real enemy. This idea, 'a real enemy', is absolutely foriegn to them. They have to learn to think in terms of someone actively wanting to kill them. Most people have never concieved of this idea, much less had to live with it.

Their worlds are changing in ways they cannot imagine....much like so many people had their worlds end in a flash of light, pain, thoughts of "Why G-d?".

Regards,

110 posted on 09/14/2001 2:53:17 PM PDT by beowolf
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To: Theresa
Add as much sugar as you need to get it down, dear.
111 posted on 09/14/2001 3:07:01 PM PDT by bvw
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To: That Poppins Woman, kristinn
How is it that four hijacked planes flew unmolested and unchallenged by neither our air traffic control system or our military ?

The same reason that forty years ago you didn't have to lock your doors when you left for a two week vacation. You could trust anyone who might pass in. No gated communities needed.

But sometime since a burglary, a robbery happens. People start locking their doors. They stop expecting people to behave and retreat to things -- deadbolts, security doors, alarm systems, bars on the windows. With each security thing added actually security goes down, not up. Why? Because each purchase, each installation, each rumor of a break-in, expectations of the behaviour of others goes down.

Adoption of a security procedure or security thing takes away from the only way that really insures security. That way is personal responsibility, social expectations of that high level of responsibility, enforced social expectations of that responsibility.

In this horrible circumstance, the domestic flight hijacking and the WTC suicide bombing, the only way to insure that security is to pursue a war of annihilation of the men, women and children in the families and cultures that teach such evil acts.

112 posted on 09/14/2001 3:26:54 PM PDT by bvw
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To: diotima
I have been more than happy to criticize the Bush administration and its KoolAid drinking cheerleaders who blindly support what I perceive to be anti conservative ideas

Help me out here. Is that Bush bashing or not? :-)

113 posted on 09/14/2001 4:26:14 PM PDT by Howlin (Cheering@bush)
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To: sneakypete
I've been called a traitor myself for criticising Bush.

I've been called immoral because I support Bush. Where do we go from here?

114 posted on 09/14/2001 4:27:29 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Theresa
ROFLMAO!
115 posted on 09/14/2001 4:36:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: deport
I've been called or told that I remind them of an ignorant SOB by some on this forum that he's trying to defend

Oh, please, I can beat that. I was told by one of these "principled" people that not only was I an immoral conservative because I support Bush, but that I had manipuated the entire forum to feel sorry for me because of my son's death.

You're going to have to go some to beat that.

116 posted on 09/14/2001 4:39:24 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Manipulated.
117 posted on 09/14/2001 4:40:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I've been called immoral because I support Bush. Where do we go from here?

Hmmmmmm...........I guess "immoral" covers everything these folks want to place in that category. It is sickening that their expression of hatred knows no discretion.

One would think that they could hold their tongues for just a little while. But no, if there is a way to extract something from anything and turn it into a Bush assault, they'll find it. It says a great deal about their judgment. I find this behavior even worse than that of the liberals; at least the libs don't pretend to be our friends. If these constant critics must tear down Bush at this time, they have proven that their ego-driven agenda is a world unto itself. Very sad !!!!!!!!!

118 posted on 09/14/2001 4:41:25 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I keep getting the feeling that they are pissed because WE don't agree with them.
119 posted on 09/14/2001 4:45:34 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I keep getting the feeling that they are pissed because WE don't agree with them.

Ya think???????? LOL !!!!!

120 posted on 09/14/2001 4:51:46 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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