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325,000 U.S. children victims of porn industry
The Detroit News ^ | 9/10/01 | Mark Memmott / USA TODAY

Posted on 09/10/2001 9:59:11 AM PDT by Willie Green

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:08:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Senator Pardek
No. I would find such a title accurate, and just as important - I would find it responsible instead of being grossly misleading for the sake of catching one's eye.

Sorry Senator if I misunderstood what you were saying. I guess you're right, the Detroit News could have given the article a more accurate title..

201 posted on 09/10/2001 8:42:48 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: cicero's_son
I saw this report last night. 325,000 seems incredibly high.

That would be about equivalent to everyone killed in car crashes (in the US) for the last five or six years. The number is just TOO HIGH to be believable.

202 posted on 09/10/2001 8:45:09 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Those 460 were ridiculed and villified. They've been called liers and worse. How many others do you think want to step forward and tell their stories? How many still can?

The abuse mentioned in my posts are only the tip of the iceberg.

203 posted on 09/10/2001 8:47:29 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: DistantVoice
It's a long thread, what and you may not be interested in wading through it all. But I'd love to hear your thoughts.
204 posted on 09/10/2001 8:54:16 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: FormerLurker
Just to be fully on the record let me state that I am a mother, a preschool teacher and have family members who have been sexually abused. I take this issue EXTREMELY seriously.

I cannot speak to the McMartin case directly as I have little information, but I have a number of concerns about interviews given to children who "may" be sexual abuse victims.
First, there is NO doubt in my mind that I could convince a child (2-3 years old definitely, maybe less so a 4 year old) of just about anything, given enough opportunity to "remind" the child of what occurred.
The anatomically correct dolls, common sense tells me, are more likely to elicit sexual talk or action than other dolls. Children will focus on the unusual features.
A lot of what I have seen of interview tapes is very leading. The children are rewarded and praised for talking about sex, and are ignored or badgered if they do not.
I think it is unconscionable that all possibly related cases are referred to the same therapist.
And in general I find it a little hard to believe that that many children were sexually abused and it went unnoticed by so many parents. Lots of clueless folk out there, but this seems unreasonable.

If I suspected that one of my children had been abused, I don't know where I would go. I'm not sure that one can "question" children about possible abuse without being leading to some extent. And I certainly wouldn't subject them to the same interviewer for weeks on end for him/her to repeat the same questions and scenarios over and over.

205 posted on 09/10/2001 9:01:44 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: DAnconia55
I'm not so interested in the age of consent, as I am the age of treating kids like adults. Some of these fry-happy yahoo legislators think 14 year olds (and younger, I think) are suitable for capital punishment. I believe in the death penalty, but jeeeshhh! 14 year olds?
207 posted on 09/10/2001 9:18:36 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: Dianna
First, there is NO doubt in my mind that I could convince a child (2-3 years old definitely, maybe less so a 4 year old) of just about anything, given enough opportunity to "remind" the child of what occurred.

I believe that the first mother to come forward in the McMartin case, Judy Johnson, saw blood on her infant's diaper.

Take a look at The Dark Tunnels of McMartin for more info on this case.

The anatomically correct dolls, common sense tells me, are more likely to elicit sexual talk or action than other dolls. Children will focus on the unusual features. A lot of what I have seen of interview tapes is very leading. The children are rewarded and praised for talking about sex, and are ignored or badgered if they do not. I think it is unconscionable that all possibly related cases are referred to the same therapist.

From post #118..

The stories told by these children, it should be noted, were not fed to them by some diabolical team of therapists and headline-seeking journalists. Many of them were offered spontaneously to hundreds of parents and scores of childcare specialists. And the victims of the McMartin Preschool, all adults now, still tell the same stories today.

And in general I find it a little hard to believe that that many children were sexually abused and it went unnoticed by so many parents. Lots of clueless folk out there, but this seems unreasonable.

Just as with many people here, denial seems to be a way of coping with that which is difficult to accept. It has happened before, and more than likely will happen again, especially with all of these "experts" saying that none of this ever happened..

208 posted on 09/10/2001 10:27:12 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: damian5
"Estimates are that over 90% of crime is drug related. All the drug laws and prosecutions are doing nothing, drug use continues to rise and the illegal money is corrupting all levels of society. There is only one logical conclusion, decriminalize the drugs."

The whole thing is a no-win proposition. Your answer is to decriminize action that accounts for 90 percent of crime. Illegal money is corrupting all levels of society? Our entire societal fabric is unraveling, and its not money that is doing it.

210 posted on 09/11/2001 5:32:38 AM PDT by Don Myers
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