The Great Starvation as Opportunistic Genocide (Did the British commit genocide in Ireland?)

Irish Famine/Genocide Committee ^ | undated | Seamus Metress

[independentmind]

Cheers.

[independentmind]

Stirring the pot a bit.

[independentmind]

The granddaddy of all population control policies?

[independentmind]

Other interesting links:

The Raced Celt: 1840-1890

Hilaire Belloc on the Irish Famine

[Mercuria]

I feel HONORED that I (perhaps?) inspired you to post this. **G**

Will review, study, and examine...and get back with you, I promise!

[Mike Darancette]

The only up side is that the US got a lot of good people out of it.

Ol' Joe Stalin did a much better job of it.

[Norn Iron]

And from the same website a letter from a Jesuit, an organisation that is somewhat reluctant to disclose the part it played in sending liberals and Protestants to concentration camps in Slovakia and Jews to places like Belsen. The name Tiso might jog the memory - he was hung for his contribution to 'justice and peace'.

And no mention of the innocents who died before, during and after the hunger strikes in Northern Ireland 20 years ago.

Aren't half-truths just lies by another name?

'Fighting like hell' seems like an apt metaphor for those who endorse terrorism in Northern Ireland and other parts of the world.

Letter From Daniel Berrigan, S. J.

West Side Jesuit Community
220 W. 98th Street
New York, N.Y. 10025

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I commend with all my heart the work of the Irish Famine/Genocide Committee. And I regret that I shall be unable to attend the forum on May 1-2. I shall be in Harrisburg, PA, speaking at a rally against the barbarity of capital punishment.

Frequent trips to Ireland in the dark days of the hunger strike and since, have strengthened my work for peace, here and elsewhere.

No peace without justice. An ingredient of that elusive justice for the Irish people, is a direct, lucid confrontation with the myths concerning the Great Hunger.

One asks, and rightly, who owns the memories? How is it that the perpetrators of crime seize on memory, sanitise it of guilt, and turn it to their own advantage?

It must be understood: the tactic enables the guilty to perpetuate a fiction of absolute power over the victim.

We must seize the memory, correct the record, name the criminal, deny the myth of victor and victim, of powerful and powerless.

And this is not solely or even primarily for our own sake; the process belongs to all people, those who have survived this tormented century, and those who have not.

The reclaiming of memory belongs to everyone who has known gulag and death row and torture chamber, fast unto death, disappearance and slavery and intimidation, racism and sexism and homophobia.

Mourn the dead, fight like hell for the living! Reclaim the memory! So doing, we reclaim our own humanity.

Daniel Berrigan, S. J.

[NeoCaveman]

Can I get some reparations? Dammm Lymie b@st@rds!

[Norn Iron]

There are those who are compassionate and who care about justice and peace. It has little to do with race or creed

Then there are those who cynically exploit suffering to advance political causes which lead to further suffering, war and injustice. We've seen no shortage of that in Northern Ireland.

[Norn Iron]

The link on the website to Rosemary Nelson tells you something about the fascist inclinations of its contributors

Naturally, the website fails to reveal Rosemary's cynical role as a defence attorney for a number of Sinn Fein - IRA serial killers. Thanks to her 'success' in this role many innocent people were murdered by KKK look-a-likes with guns or blown to smithereens with Semtex bombs.

She was also a close friend of one of the Bogota 3. They are currently being investigated for their links to Cuba and terrorism and drugs in Colombia.

PROJECTS AND EVENTS

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May 1 - 2, 1999
A Forum --
Dedicated to the Memory of Rosemary Nelson, Esq.

[Colosis]

Great exception has to be taken to Norns comments about Rosemary Nelson. She was a catholic solicitor who was murdered like other catholic solicitors by special forces backed up by loyalist death squads for attempting to defend their clients. Norn's comments are not unlike those uttered by the british minister, Hog, before the similar murder of Pat Fuinicane. Norn should heed his previous post "It must be understood: the tactic enables the guilty to perpetuate a fiction of absolute power over the victim". It's hurtful to see the length that people will go to justify murder.

[Norn Iron]

I'm not condoning the murder of Rosemary Nelson or anyone else. I'm pointing out how we usually only get part of the story. Don't you think that people should hear everything not just the bits that fit?

[independentmind]

Then there are those who cynically exploit suffering to advance political causes which lead to further suffering, war and injustice.

No doubt this is true. And people who lie about the past make it much easier for the cyncical to accomplish their objectives.

[Norn Iron]

You seem not understand the meaning of 'fails to reveal' when you commented on my posting. Perhaps I should have put it a little more strongly. Some of the information was been deliberately left out.

[Norn Iron]

Agreed. We have the additional problem that people lie about the present or selectively report what has happened. Politicians might call it spin. Bill Clinton seems to have been an accomplished performer.

[Colosis]

Then why all the mis-information about Rosemary Nelson? Expalin "Thanks to her 'success' in this role many innocent people were murdered by KKK look-a-likes with guns or blown to smithereens with Semtex bombs." It's propaganda.

[Norn Iron]

Sadly. its fact.

[Colosis]

If it's fact, then prove it. You can scurry all the loyalist propaganda sites you want but there is simply no proof of the allegations you make of a murdered woman.

[Norn Iron]

A relative of mine was murdered in Co Armagh. The killer was known but there wasn't enough evidence to get past the keen eye of the defence attorney. The same killer escaped later after another attack with the help of the same defense attorney.

The following sent their combined condolences to the Irish News:

Thar cheann Coiste na n-Iarchimí agus na grúpaí áitiúla d’iarr-chimí uilig, tugaimid comhbhrón d’a fear chéile agus a clann iomlán. Tar Anall (Belfast); Tús Nua (Belfast); An Lóiste Iur (Belfast); An Trá Ghearr (Belfast); Amach agus Isteach (Belfast); Tar Isteach (Belfast); Tar Abhaile (Derry); Strabane Ex-Prisoners Group; Arais Arís (Dungannon); Clones Fáilte (Clones); Cumann na Meirleach (South Armagh); Tar Anall Iúr Cinn Trá (Newry); Fáilte Abhaile (Dundalk); Fermanagh Ex-Prisoners Group; Goite (Lurgan); Portadown Ex-Prisoners Group; Donegal Ex-Prisoners Group; Fáilte Arais, Dublin; Sinn Féin’s Prisoners’ Department Belfast.

Jim 'Mortar' Monaghan, one of the Bogota 3, has been an employee of Tar Isteach, a republican prisoner support group.

Martin McCauley, another of the Bogota 3, and his wife sent the following message to the family:

My dear friend Rosie, one in a million, a pillar of strength and a beacon of hope. Much loved and sadly missed by Christin and Martin McCauley.

Why should I trawl loyalist or republican sites?