Birth control must be covered

The Olympian

[Olydawg]

"If men needed contraceptives, they would have been covered a long time ago," Kreidler said, joking that "coverage

[anniegetyourgun]

Kriedler is a creep....but so are most of the folks down in Oly. This one was well planned by Planned Parenthood, N.O.W. chapter, and WA NARAL with lawsuit. Got to hand it to 'em - they did a slick job of running this through. But of course, in this state, it was a piece of cake. Our legislators have no problem with passing along mandates to private insurers and secretly hope to bust that industry anyway. In fact, our IC's have done a pretty good job thus far.

BTW, welcome to FR!

[areafiftyone]

This is a good idea. It will cut down somewhat on the amount of unwanted pregnancies (i.e. abortions). Most women can't afford Birth Control Pills unless their insurance covers it and most insurance plans don't because they consider it "Recreational Drugs". It costs about $40-60 a month without insurance. With insurance it costs about $5-$10 depending on the co-pay.

[Black Agnes]

I disagree. Sex is a choice. '.' Why shouldn't the birth control users pay for their pills? Why should MY rates go up because they choose to have sex and choose to attempt to prevent pregnancies with a pharmaceutical product? This doesn't 'stick it to the insurance companies', this sticks it to the rest of the employees of this plan that may or may not believe in birth control or just plain not want to subsidize someone's choice of behavior out of work...

[GuillermoX]

No, "with insurance" it STILL costs 50-60 bucks per month, it's just that the cost is passed on to others.

Obviously this claim that this will save insurance co's $$ is ridiculous, because if it were true, they would have offered it long ago.

Birth control pills do not treat a condition, the insurance co's should not be forced to provide them.

[Diamond]

This is a good idea. It will cut down somewhat on the amount of unwanted pregnancies (i.e. abortions).

Do you understand how these pills work?

Cordially,

[areafiftyone]

Yes I do. And to even hint that they are associated in any way with abortion is just plain dumb! They are not like the morning after pill so don't even go there!

[areafiftyone]

Didn't meant to sound curt - I am not pro-choice but to prevent unwanted pregnancies means alot more to me than spending a few extra bucks. :-)

[gjenkins]

Every one of us in society benefit when we use birth conrol. Birth control helps in the war against poverty. Birth control is so valuable that it should be made free to every man, woman, and child in the United States. The government should also verify and approve of contraceptives by demanding licenses. Home remedies for birth control, like the rythm method, are not as effective, are cruel to the children oops individual, and do not foster proper socialization of the individual. They should also be regulated. At minimum, the government could give out vouchers so that each individual could decide which birth control is best for them.

[Black Agnes]

I'm hoping you merely forgot to put a /sarcasm tag on that one...

[areafiftyone]

My mother was a devout Catholic and because of that used the Rythm method. She ended up having five kids - you can see it worked real well! Don't get me wrong she loved her kids but always told me that the Church was idiotic when it came to rules about birth control and that I should go by what I think is right for my body as far as that is concerned and not depend on my partner/spouse to be responsible because sometimes they don't want to think that they have to be.

[Snuffington]

Most women can't afford Birth Control Pills unless their insurance covers it ... It costs about $40-60 a month without insurance.

Most women don't have 40-60 dollars per month?

[areafiftyone]

Hey sometimes I can't even afford lunch! Could be cause I live in New York? NAH! ;-)

[gjenkins]

Oops ... I meant to say abstinance and the rythm method. I use the bike rider method. Apparently, If I ever want kids, I have to quit riding my bike for six months.

[Snuffington]

My mother was a devout Catholic and because of that used the Rythm method. She ended up having five kids - you can see it worked real well!

A common misunderstanding about the Church's position on natural family planning, as well as the rhythm method.

When the rhythm method was introduced (in the 40's - 50's) it was about as effective as other birth control methods of the day (about 75% of the time). The sympto-thermal method, a more refined natural family planning method also approved by the Catholic Church, is over 98% effective. These methods also have the advantage of increasing the chance for pregnancy when it is desired.

Here is a link withsome more information: Basics of NFP

[gjenkins]

"Most women don't have 40-60 dollars per month?"

If everyone had to pay cash out of purse/wallet for birth control, I guarantee it would be cheaper. As it is, there is no pressure to lower the price, as government subsidies cover the people who can't afford the price.

[gjenkins]

Just drawing an analogy to another sacred cow. :)

[areafiftyone]

You must be SOME bike rider! ;-)

[Black Agnes]

True. If they can't afford the 40-60 bux/month for kids, how do they think they can provide for a child? The catch here is that they distribute the cost of both on US. WE pay for their birth control choices AND the kids. Wow. I can't wait to have kids so I can stick someone ELSE with my bills!

[gjenkins]

I would voluntarily pay 40-60 dollars a month for some people to not have children in exchange for ... oh i don't know ... a 50% reduction in property taxes maybe?