Posted on 09/05/2001 2:47:45 PM PDT by RnMomof7
BTW, what do you do to make money? Just curious.
1 Corinthians - My favorite reading in the 2nd chapter
2:1And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2:2For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
2:3And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
2:4And my speech and my preaching [was] not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
Dormats are those that have laid down their lives and self to serve!
I'm a medical doctor.
I can tell you this much, there are days when I can't wait for better saints than I to wipe their feet on my back in the great new city :)
When it comes to earthly stuff, man, I can talk, lol. I often get into very heated exchanges with proponents of the federal reserve banking system. I have been supremely massively bearish about a market, whose upward progress is a symbol of blessing when the culture it blesses is on critical scores, and this is my opinion, radically in rebellion against the principles of what is good and true and right -- in short, a culture that is waging an in your face war against the Almighty God.
It could very well be that I shut down because I could no longer absorb the contradiction. Sure, maybe I am too 'conservative', maybe I am too stuffy, maybe I am not 'progressive' enough, but my cognitive dissonance reached a boiling point on January 10th or so 1999. This was just before in my view one of the most wicked men in America, the President of what I thought was once a Chirstian nation with its great Christian legacy -- a diverse Christian legacy, but in my book, Christian is Christian, I do not like splitting hairs if I do not have to. The enemy is my enemy. If he can divide, than he has beat his enemy, and my focus is on the enemy and how to beat the enemy. I mean, sure, maybe it is fair game to squabble over how many angels can fit on the tip of a pin. Some things are important, and a good fight over doctrine is not necessarily a bad thing. I do not care about it all too much anymore, because after all my years as Christian, I have seen it all and heard it all, and it for me is sort of annoying. I respect the arguments, but I just don't have the interest in them anymore. I can see no evidence of the benefit the bickering has produced. So if something is unproductive, I tend to leave it alone.
But the thing is, somehow a totally immoral piece of trash was just about to get a pass from the Senate. I knew it was coming. If you can believe it, there were people who lost billions of dollars because they thought Clinton was going to get taken out. I knew that was totally wrong. But that is just an aside -- made some money off it though.
Still, it was precisely the wicked irony that the so called blessing of a 'good' market, and a 'good' economy (it is all a deception, but as long as things appear to be good by the necromancers of illusion then the perception of the masses creates the reality) was contingent upon the political salvation of the dirtiest piece of human excrement the Lord ever allowed to turn a Christian's gut inside out.
But it was not just Clinton. It was the abortions, the homosexual movement, the suffocating spirit of sexual immorality (don't get me wrong, I like good sex -- with my wife), oh man, just so many things. Then I made a note of the dramatic decline in even the lamest measure of the status of Christianity in America, which was the 'pews' were getting emptier, and emptier. Shoot, forget about the whole business of born again, not born again, or whether the really got Jesus, or really got the Spirit, and all of that, all that stuff that those who are left in the pews are arguing about, even, imo, amazingly, today, right here on this very thread.
The fact is, whatever it was that God only knows was going on in the hearts of the people who HAD been sitting in a pew or a seat somewhere in SOME type of Chirstian church meeting, a vast many of them are simply gone, and their numbers are not being replaced.
Of course I do not live my life in a vacuum. I was dealing with heat on my end, so that sort of thing can influence perception. Yet looking at the world from the best Christian lens I had at the time, I was so totally blown away by what was going on in this nation without, at the same time I was coming to terms with it-is-about walk not talk, on a personal level, as regards to Christians, the Lord and church, I just completely shut down.
The truth is, however, and this is the good news, is that the forces of darkeness can only push the contradiction so far. I think these forces in our beleagured nation have crossed the line. As far as nations go, America is all that is left in terms of any remote semblance of Christian. But a nation is nothing more than those individuals who live in it. I am one of those people. Even I, who said the 'right' things, and performed the 'proper' religious duties (attend church meetings, evangelism, all that stuff) saw that the issue was walk and not talk. I think it IS possible for this nation to be restored, but it, imo, starts with walk, less talk, more walk from those who dare call themselves Christian. As for the rest of the dense pagans out there, they'll start moving in the right direction.
I think I have to keep in mind that for a million reasons, there are millions of people who will forever remain clueless to all the deeper things of God. "The have eyes but cannot see, ears and cannot hear". I tend to think the Lord has a plan and a disposition for the clueless. Maybe I am all wrong on this one, but my thinking is that the Lord judges people one by one based on what the Lord knew truly what the capacity of the individual was to 'get it', and what they did with that. I think it is fair to say that there are a whole bunch of folks that live in a capacity free zone, lol. I do not know how the Lord is going to manage that matter. That is the Lord's business, and not mine. But since I have no idea what capacity level another person may or may not have, I do what I can to live up to the capacity I have to lead the people around me to Christ.
That sounds differnt from the reality of who I know am. Yet, I think as I go through the slow, grinding process of learning how to walk, perhaps a little bit of reality can creep into my life, and from that I can become a part of the solution and find myself become someone who can credibly lead someone to Jesus.
The thing is I am still in a period of shut down, because even to this day I do not understand how a nation that has run so far away from the Lord can continue to reap huge blessings. Or perhaps the so-called blessings were nothing more than a curse, where the more quail people ate (easy money from central bank inflation), this meal fueled the rebellion.
Sometimes I wish I were not a Christian, because being a Christian is not very, well, cool, I guess. I can try to sort of track with the 'coolness' of worldly things, but I know that deep down inside there is a Spirit that is in me that simply does not resonate with the worldy spirit. When it comes right down to it, the Spirit in me is simply not on the same page as the spirit of the world. All of this means there is no escape for me. I am a prisoner of the Lord. I can't run away from the new man He is shaping in me, because i think the bottom line is, the new man He is shaping is the true man that I am, and the fullness of that identity will come to light when the earthly things that encumber it are taken away (you know, like death :))
I think what I am saying is it matters to me if people around me are in sync with the Lord. I can think of a zillion really cool people who would NEVER even think such a thing. And sometimes I wish I were one of them. But at the end of the day I am not. I cannot change the change Jesus made in me. I cannot be somebody else. I cannot account for why I even care, but I do. This stuff matters to me.
So what is the solution? How will we find the balance? What will the Lord use to move us closer to Him, His Truth and His reality? OK, so I think about this. Maybe that means I am basically nothing, but I am not sure it is worth it to be something or someone other than what I am. So forget it. I'll let the beautiful people snicker. I am a Christian, and this is what a Christian thinks about. My job is one of speculating. I like to speculate. Part of that means saying things. Part of it means writing stuff down. So I sit here at 12:49 AM PST posting to cyberspace. So I am a nut. Who cares?
This is all a very serious business, of course, because everything I say in this post has everything to do with whether I am a buyer or a seller in the market. I do not believe in idle specualtion. It has to be real, and has to be worth something, otherwise there is no point. So in a sense I gain some redemption out of the category of a religious whack job IF my speculation converts into $$.
So I have to ask myself, what will it take to turn the tide back to fidelity in the Lord? Will it take more prayer? Maybe. Better doctrine? Nothing wrong with good doctrine. Will it take more evangelism? Probably. Will it take less corruption in leadership? Undoubtedly. But will these things turn the tide? In my view, absolutely not, not by themselves. Something else has to happen.
What is that something else? The prodigal son has to get so so so sick of feeding in the pigs trough that they finally begin the journey home. This is a very deep subject, and I cannot address the whole matter, because there are several sinsiter demonic twists along the journey back to the father's house that make the journey uncertain, and there could still be many forks along the path that could turn our repenting traveller around back in the wrong direction. The story in the Bible tells us the son made it home, but the journey America is embarking on at this time has no such guarantee, and therin lies a great mystery.
HOWEVER, believe it or not, I do believe the era of the great contradiction is coming to an end, and the nation is on the path back to the Father. That is good news. But whether or not we get there is contingent on many things, but ultimately contingent on the Lord helping us get there, and beating the devil back along the way. To be honest, I do not know if the Lord is going to be there to beat the devil for us. I have a hunch that as a nation we are going to have to make the right decisions along the way that will get us home.
But in this journey, many travellers do not realize what the destination is, and yet they are being swept along by greater forces than themselves to carry them there. But there will be those who recognize the goal, and know where the cultural momentum is 'supposed' to move to, and that is back to the Father. It is my earnest hope that whoever these people are, they will show up at the crucial moments and lead the way when the devil is tempting us to take the wrong path.
This sounds all very vague, but let me assure you I can get VERY specific about what I strongly believe Christian leaders should press for along the way. But that is not for this moment here on this post. The key is I believe the effect of the contradiction is pressing back unpon the chests of the quial eaters, the pig's food eaters, and they are about to find out that the very thing they thought was a blessing turned out to be a curse, because anything that produces a divorce from the Lord IS a curse, no matter how good it might look.
There is a diabolical twist in this, in that the same forces of darkenss that were behind the alleged blessing (which was really a curse, because in our inflated wealth we spat in God's face -- and it could very well be the the Prince of Darkness, to whom the masters of money in this world serve directly, and who got his ambassadors of evil to do his dark bidding, which led to the rebellion, created this illusion of wealth for this very purpose) are the same ones behind rotating the mirror and causing the illusion to vanish, because, after all, it was only a mere illusion. It was not real wealth. It was not reap prosperity. It was NOTHING, and that 'nothing', that illusion led us to rebel against the great, Invisible, Almighty God.
Of course, that the Lord would use the devil to work the Lord's purposes is nothing new. The story of Job tells us that is as old as the hills. So what I am saying is the same creeps who forced it up and created the illusion, are rotating the mirror and are in the process of taking it all away.
What am I talking about? Why, the stock market, of course! What else?!? But as goes the stock market, so goes the real estate market, and so goes the job market, and if things get really nasty, so goes social stability, and that could even lead to a global war.
But the key is, a nation in rebellion against God won't come back unless some titanic force puts some heat on their lives. Something has to shake them up to repent. Something has to make them fall on their knees. I know what that something is, and so does the Lord -- it is the taking away of the true god of America; MONEY.
As the market collapses, assets are depleted, jobs are lost, and hard times come, this is when people are most likely to turn to the Lord, if they ever will. The big question is WILL THEY? I think we can help that happen if we stop bickering about arcane verses, and open our eyes to take in the big picture of what is happening out there. It is JUST GETTING STARTED.
There is opening up the greatest opportunity for the Lord to reap a HUGE harvest, the BIGGEST ONE IN WORLD HISTORY, but I wonder if there are enough Christian leaders out there who will do something with this opportunity. That is really hard to say. Shoot, I don't even have a clue what I am going to do. I do not even go to a church. But what I am doing and the reality of what is coming up over the horizon do not have to balance out. I have a few ideas.
So the bottom line is America is going to feel the HEAT, and it is up to the Christians who are left out there, unfortunately, to have to put down there nets for a season, and do the dirty work of prayer, evangelism, etc, because the fact is there are LOTS of other fish gonna be swimming on the other side of the boat. Somebody is going to have to be there to recast the net and pull them up out of the water.
This is all good. But there is a catch. We will need much more than basic Christian leadership of the basic fisher of men variety. We have to remember that the devils agents are behind the selling off and destruction of America's economy. OK, so the Lord is going to let the creeps play their game, but if that heat gets people to repent and turn back to the Savior, than score one for Jesus.
But it will be CRITICAL to get rid of the creeps who played America, and wasted her. The Lord is going to give Christian leaders a great opportunity here to make radical, sweeping legislative changes in regards to the law of the land that could lock the devil out of America for generations with regards to some of the most offensive aspects of the rebellion we experience today. The unknown is who will these leaders be, and will they seize the opportunity. To be honest, I have no idea. Is anybody out there?
At any rate, there is going to be heat. The devil wants to work the heat to destroy us, but the Lord wants to take advantage of the heat to lead us to repentance. If the devil sniffs out that the heat is leading to repentance, he will instruct his agents to take the heat off. But the one thing the Lord has going for Him (one thing, lol) is that the devil is ultimately stupid. The devils scam has a finite life cycle. In the devils zeal to get in the Lord's face, he can totally cross a line, where the effect of his arrogance buries his agenda alive. I think we just witnessed that in the last 2 years, and the way I see it, despite whatever fake attempts can be made to keep the heat that leads to repentance off, that heat is coming.
So the devil's game plan must shift -- and it will. Now the devil more than likely, knowing that the jig is up to the upside, will violently force the nation's economy to the downside. The thinking in hell these days is, knowing that he blew it (as usual) he can so screw people economically, with the able assistance of his bankers, that he thinks the heat will NOT lead to repentance but to a bitter rage against the Lord.
So the devil's game was to create an illusion of prosperity that would cause us to divorce ourselves from the Lord, and now it is time to destroy that illusion with the idea that people will rage against the Lord. Either way, the devil thinks he wins.
But the devil is in a weak position here, because history tells us that heat brings people to repentance quite often. In a nation such as ours, one still barely clinging to the label of Christian, I have the earnest expectation that the heat will bring the right kind of repentance. But that means somebody is going to have to be there to help those who are taking the heat to return the the Lord. If NOBODY is there, than the devil might cause the nation to rage against the Lord so deeply that instead of returning to the Lord they turn to an anti Christ who will pacify them and give them a 'solution' for their troubles. Personally, I do not like that scenario, but it could happen.
No man knows the day nor the hour. May God have mercy on us all.
I would say the nation only reflects those that live in it spoo.
2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
It is individual pride and greed that make our nation Sodom..
Dead things rot from the inside out.This nation reflects the individuals that make it up..it is a mirror to our lives..Oh we say "isn't it awful? It is ourself we see..an unsurrendered ,greedy people,trying to serve our own ego and mammon..
Matthew 11:28Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
11:29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
11:30For my yoke [is] easy, and my burden is light.
We are so proud,we think we can do it all our selves..we all need to give it to Him spoo!!
God bless you..have a Holy Lords day
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