Report Says Macedonians Killed Civilians in Revenge

New York Times ^ | September 5, 2001

[Putnik_1915]

Gee, can you say 'R-a-c-a-k'? I knew you could!

[meenie]

We can even put an equal sign between the agressor and the victim in The United States. Look at the waman who drowned her five kids in Texas and the woman who killed her two children because she couldn't get along with her mother-in-law in Chicago. Both women are victims now in the eyes of some.

Insanity is slowly creeping into the US mental picture as well as the Balkans. The Balkans is a good example of what happens if the trend continues. Both are good examples of the socio/liberal attitude of the end always justifies the means.

[konijn]

"Two days after the attack, foreign journalists went to Ljuboten, where the bodies of Sulejman and Muharrem Bajrami still lay, each shot repeatedly, in the back and in the head."

Muslims normally bury their dead as soon as possible after they are killed. So they left these bodies 2 days in in the field for clear propagada purposes.

Visit http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/macedonia/photos/ for images and search for some bullet holes.

[Persa]

Has the NYT ever once printed the faces of the Macedonian widows orphans and weeping mothers?

Has the NYT ever once printed the deaths of 70 Macedonians in the past 6 months?

Has the NYT ever once printed all the Macedonians displaced and driven from their homes by terrorism?

Has the NYT ever once printed Macedonia's tragic 100 year struggle for independence in this 20th century, which took hundreds of thousands of Macedonian lives, and created nearly 500,000 refugees?

Where are your photographs of the 28,000 Aegean Macedonian orphans NYT ?

Where are your photographs of the 6,000 Macedonians slaughtered by the Turks in 1903 NYT

Where are your photographs and coverage of 100 years of genocide of the Macedonian people NYT?

NYT has not covered this history, because its war-mongering advocacy of war in Macedonia would so plainly reveal itself as a continuation of the invisible genocide of the Macedonians in this 20th c.

[self_evident]

Both are good examples of the socio/liberal attitude of the end always justifies the means.

I think it's more like "the weak (of mind and body) = good". It applies to the Palis and Albanians. It fits their image of government as the "mommy and daddy" figure, needed to protect the "noble" weak (mind and body, again). They play to the US love of the underdog, but are blind to fact that the underdog may just be a group of murderous thugs.

[self_evident]

NYT has not covered this history, because its war-mongering advocacy of war in Macedonia would so plainly reveal itself as a continuation of the invisible genocide of the Macedonians in this 20th c.

They never will. Macedonia's best hope might be that Bush may finally, eventually, back up his campaign promise and get the US out of this mess.

[Voronin]

The knives are really out for Ljube Boskovski then.

HRW + NATO = occupation.

VRN

[Red Jones]

bump

[Persa]

US is Macedonia's only hope and saving grace. Hopefully, US Congress will conclude that in Macedonia our economic interests and political interests in safeguarding our image as the world's greatest democracy will coincide.

[rebdov]

NATO must leave and the US must PULL OUT OF NATO NOW!

[eniapmot]

... Ljube Boskovski, the hard-line Macedonian minister of the interior...

I keep forgetting this guy's name. I'll need a mnemonic.

[eniapmot]

Lesson of the day.

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There. That wasn't too difficult, was it, children?

[vooch]

I saw this walkig on the way to work this morning

Huge Headline, Occupies most of front page........clearly the war party hate mongering campaign in on in full

for a unbiased POV see: www.realitymacedonia.org.mk

[Vojvodina]

Welcome to the club.

[Vojvodina]

The United Nations war crimes tribunal in The Hague ... has sent investigators to Macedonia to decide whether to begin a full investigation into what happened in Ljuboten and who might be responsible.

Yup. Here's the Macedonian version of Rachak. All these high-ranking Mak officials will eventually be charged with some sh*t or other.

They charged the Serbian President with crimes against humanity for some ALLEGED crimes the VJ and the MUP supposedly committed. The President of Serbia isn't the Commander-in-Chief of any of these forces. He has no responsibility whatsoever. MUP is run by the Interior Minister of Serbia, the VJ by the Federal President. The President of Serbia doesn't have more power than the PM.

Whoever extradites Mr. Milutinovich should be tried for treason.

[Delchev]

look people, the Macedonian judges have already made investigations into albanian war crimes. And I doubt the Macedonians will let some foreigners come and play cops.

[Justin Raimondo]

I will be in Ljuboten soon and we'll see how this Racak revisited holds up under scrutiny.....

[Viktor]

And I doubt the Macedonians will let some foreigners come and play cops.

They already did!

[F-117A]

The NYT quotes the NGO (Neo-Government Organization) HRW report as if it is gospel.

Others accuse HRW of being a front for the NWO/NATO.

So what is the truth? I suggest that anyone that has questions go to the HRW website and make up their own mind. I could not find any reports covering the past two years of killings and abuse of non-ethnic-Albanians in Kosovo. The only report that I could find was from august of '99 and seemed to imply that the violence against Serbs was understandable and justified.

I also searched a number of their reports on Kosovo for the word "alleged". The only occurrances I found were when HRW was quoting non-albanians! When quoting Albanins, it is treated as gospel!