Virginia to elect ALL Democrats with redistricting

MSN, Western Journal ^ | 12/5/2025 | Joe Saunders

[Governor Dinwiddie]

There are rumblings for Western Virginia and Western Maryland to secede and join West Virginia.

[Amendment10]

Thank you for referencing that article LeonardFMason.

Virginia to elect ALL Democrats with redistricting

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The FR thread titles that we're seeing concerning gerrymandering by elite, desperate Democrats are effectively evidence (imo) of Democrats UNTHINKINGLY BRAGGING that they are violating Section 2 of the 14th Amendment, that section a penalty for states where ballot box fraud has occurred.

Note the zero tolerance, "hair trigger" wording of that section which federal and state governments, under the boots of the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties, are evidently ignoring imo.

• But when the right to vote at any election

• is denied to any

• or in any way abridged,

• Section 2: Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election [all emphases added] for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State. [Apportionment of Representatives]

In fact, consider that the post-Civil War congressional Republicans who drafted Section 2 made it to discourage Southern Democrats (my words) from rigging the ballot boxes that Democrats are now alleged to have done for 2020, 2022 and possibly earlier elections!

Because slavery (except as punishment for crime) had been abolished by the Thirteenth Amendment, the freed slaves would henceforth be given full weight for purposes of apportionment. This situation was a concern to the Republican leadership of Congress, who worried that it would increase the political power of the former slave states, even as such states continued to deny freed slaves the right to vote. —Apportionment of Representatives

The uniparty of the post-Civil War cold war is seemingly trying to reverse the outcome of that war imo.

More evidence that the corrupt uniparty, front-ended by the post-17th Amendment ratification Democratic and Republican parties imo, are wrongly ignoring Section 2 is the following third-party opinions of that section.

• No serious effort was ever made in Congress to effectuate § 2, and the only judicial attempt was rebuffed.2 , cert. denied, 328 U.S. 870 (1946). —Apportionment Clause

• The Section had long been dead. But there are two camps of legal scholars who wish to revive it. The first consists of those who would like to see Section Two enforced to punish states that abridge their citizens’ right to vote, especially in the wake of Shelby County v. Holder. Recently, Joshua Geltzer, the executive director at Georgetown’s Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection and the former senior director for counterterrorism at the National Security Council, added himself to this camp. The second camp is using Section Two, which distinguishes on the basis of gender, as evidence that Section One’s Equal Protection Clause does not prohibit gender-based discrimination. Jonathan Mitchell spearheads this movement. —The Worrisome Ghost of the Fourteenth Amendment’s Second Section

Consider that Thomas Jefferson had warned against ignoring parts of the Constitution.

The general rule [is] that an instrument is to be so construed as to reconcile and give meaning and effect to all its parts. — Thomas Jefferson to -----, 1816. ME 14:445

Regarding alleged gerrymandering by Texas, consider that what Texas is doing is likely reversing a previous Democratic gerrymander.

[WhiteHatBobby0701]

The Rest of the State will sue, claiming the map favours Washington DC, Richmond, and elite college towns. It will be charged that it doesn’t serve the state.

[grumpygresh]

I asked Chat GPT this:

Use average results (democrat v republican) for last 4 years per district. Then model scenario where states redistrict on a partisan basis. Stipulate that SCOTUS allows southern states to redistrict. Account for any states that have rules making redistricting unlikely.

Scenario results — national seat-shift estimates

1) Conservative scenario (low impact)
• Assumption: Mapmakers are partisan but limited by courts/VRA; commission states hold; southern gains are modest.
• Estimated net seat change: GOP +3 to +6 seats nationally (i.e., Republicans pick up 3–6 seats relative to baseline).
• Why: Empirical studies often find limited national impact after constraints; even when one big state flips several seats, cancellations elsewhere reduce net effect. (Supported by Kenny et al. findings that statewide partisan effects are often modest when averaged nationally.) 

2) Likely / central scenario (my best single estimate)
• Assumption: SCOTUS clearances (as in the Texas decision) let several southern GOP-controlled states redraw aggressively, while commission states remain fixed. Aggressive southern redraws flip multiple marginal seats; elsewhere GOP picks up a smaller number.
• Estimated net seat change: GOP +10 to +15 seats nationally.
• State drivers (example breakdown, illustrative):
• Texas: +4 to +6 seats (news reports place Texas at ~+5 under new map). 
• Florida: +1 to +2 seats (GOP-controlled redistricting can consolidate advantage).
• North Carolina / Georgia: combined +2 to +4 seats (targeting suburban marginals).
• Alabama / Louisiana / Mississippi / South Carolina / Tennessee / Arkansas: together +1 to +3 seats (smaller states, but cumulative).
• Other GOP states (e.g., Indiana, Missouri, Ohio if controls allow): +0 to +3 seats.
• Why this is ‘likely’: The Texas court example shows how 1 state can swing multiple seats; these gains add up across the South where Republicans control legislatures. At the national level, a +10–15 range is plausible given geography and prior research’s upper bounds.

3) Aggressive / upper-bound scenario (strong partisan engineering allowed)
• Assumption: Very aggressive packing/cracking permitted widely, weak judicial pushback, and mapmakers exploit every marginal district across many states. Voting Rights Act litigation either fails or arrives too late to block many districts.
• Estimated net seat change: GOP +16 to +25 seats (this is an upper bound; in practice legal/geographic limits usually prevent this full swing).
• Why: If several large states (Texas, Florida, North Carolina) each flip 4–6 seats and smaller states add a few, totals can reach ~20; but such an outcome requires both legal permissiveness and extraordinary mapmaking, which is less likely everywhere simultaneously. Academic modeling shows such extreme outcomes are technically possible but constrained by geography and minority-rights rules. 

[jerseyman]

First of all, ditching the current districts, which were created by a “non-partisan” commission, will require an amendment to the Virginia constitution to be voted on by a statewide election. That is unlikely to happen before November 2026.

Secondly, those who claim the Democrats will capture 9, 10, or all 11 districts have no idea what the political landscape is like in this state. The Republicans currently have 5 seats. Three of them are safe seats, in the west and southwest parts of the state. Two of them are competitive, and the only districts they can target.

[bIlluminati]

Not if they false the vote.

[frank ballenger]

Thanks for that trove of facts, few of which I had ever heard.

The grim Obama fundamental transformation of this country.
Including Virginia.

[frank ballenger]

Thanks for that trove of facts, few of which I had ever heard.

The grim Obama fundamental transformation of this country.
Including Virginia.

[DiogenesLamp]

The political party that seceded from the Union to keep American blacks enslaved in defiance of a Republican president in the 19th century

Oh stop. They seceded from the Union so that they might govern themselves instead of sending 65 million dollars per year to Washington DC that got spent in the North.

The Confederates were going to get hundreds of millions of dollars per year simply from being separated from the United States.

Also, President Lincoln urged the ratification of the Corwin Amendment, which passed the House and Senate by a 2/3rds majority and was sent to the states for ratification.

The Corwin Amendment guaranteed permanent slavery in the United States, and our government voted for that.

So the fight wasn't over slavery, the fight was over money. Specifically the money they kept taking from the South year after year.

The North wanted to keep it coming, and the South wanted to stop paying it.

It's that simple.

Everything else is just made up propaganda.

[TonyM]

The dems have already gerrymandered blue states nearly to the mac and can only add so much but republicans are just starting to gerrymander red states so they have far more potential.

[MinorityRepublican]

Hard to believe that Virginia was a baston of patriots up until this last 20-30 years.

Not really. NoVa is HUGE. It's like Chicago in the State of Illinois.

[MinorityRepublican]

The dems have already gerrymandered blue states nearly to the mac and can only add so much but republicans are just starting to gerrymander red states so they have far more potential.

Especially if we can get more seats out of Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia and South Carlina. Right now they are guaranteed at least one Representative for the Democratic Party.