Posted on 08/07/2025 7:31:59 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
My read on the Russia vs Ukraine war is that it is too complex to ever turn into Peace. The best that can be hoped for is an North vs South Korea truce with a DMZ and international peace keepers.
Ukrainian people will never get over their hatred for Russia. While many speak Russian and have relatives in Russia, there is way too much spilled blood to forgive Russia anytime soon.
Russia has been targeting hospitals, shopping centers, apartment complexes, and all kinds of civilian targets with bombs, missiles and drones. Ukraine has been targeting military targets, military logistical targets (railroads, fuel production used by the military, bridges, etc.).
Russia is guilty of war crimes by targeting strictly civilian target. The people of Ukraine know that fact and most have multiple relatives and friends who have died or been wounded by Russian military weapons. That is not something one can forget. Maybe in 4 to 6 generations, but not for a long, long time. This is a blood feud for Ukrainians.
And yet the world is not outraged by Russian war crimes to the point of doing something drastic. You have to wonder why there are protests all over the world about Gaza and almost complete quite about Ukraine.
“This is a blood feud for Ukrainians.”
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In 20 years, this war of Russia’s will reignite.
Except that’s Muscovite propaganda. Just because 2014-15 was bad, doesn’t mean 2016-2022 was as bad or worse. In reality it was the complete opposite, Putin launched the smo after over a year of his own intelligence operations telling him that the Donbas conflict was fizzling out without any help from Moscow.
Until 2023, the DNR ombudsman in Donetsk was sending monthly reports to the fab (based in the same building) and their own reports completely contradicted the propaganda.
Between 2014 and 2016 the civilian casualties were low and the DNR avoided quantifying the split in casualties on the combatant sides. Ditto the rockets - a heck of a lot of strikes came from Russian positions toward Ukrainian positions but they didn’t advertise that.
By 2019 the combat had dropped off a cliff. Fewer than 300 casualties across both sides, annually, across the entire LDPR. As for deaths - a tiny amount were civilians and half of them were being killed indirectly or accidentally (like stepping on landmines, getting killed in road accidents, etc.)
By Jan 2022 the monthly reports to the Kremlin were talking about single digit casualties per month - almost all of them recalcitrant combatants - with several months of zero civilians even injured let alone killed through military / militant action.
I’ll just say it again. That’s not info we were getting from Ukrainian or Western sources; that’s the information Putin’s own appointed ombudsman was reporting back to Moscow.
What changed was Denis Pushilin spinning a yarn about an imminent mobilisation by Ukraine to ‘genocide’ Russian speakers, calling for a mass evacuation. Putin lapped it up as that was the causus belli he needed to launch the smo (despite Vladimir Zhirinovsky already blowing the surprise months earlier, telling the Duma that Ukraine would be invaded in late February.)
Except we all know Pushilin was making it all up. By march 2022 there was still zero sign of a Ukrainian mass invasion of the Donbas and the Russian army walked across the Donbas, Zaporizhzia and Kherson oblasts without seeing anything more than pockets of Azov.
And until Mariupol and Bucha, the Ukrainian regular forces were treating the SMO as if it was a Kremlin pr stunt. Capturing thousands of confused Russian novices (many of whom shouldn’t have even been deployed to forward positions), giving them hearty meals and phones to call their folks, and then releasing them.
Best way to end the war is #5
5. Disaster for Putin: a repeat of the Soviets in Afghanistan
End the war? Easy. Trump agrees to subsidize oil companies to lower the price of a barrel of oil by $10 dollars. We expand domestic drilling and build another two or three refineries. We bankrupt Russia with the lower oil price while we expand sales into Europe.
Russia will either come to the table, or have to deal with lost income and have to choose between the war effort of feeding their people.
““fairly smart” drones that can launch loitering HARM missiles”
$4.99
Blast away! One in a thousand might have a Russian in a foxhole underneath. One in four thousand might have a Russian in a foxhole underneath.
“We bankrupt Russia with the lower oil price while we expand sales into Europe.”
The average Russian gets as much money off oil as I do: $0.
RUSSIAN ARMS FACTORY 15/8/25
Pay to the order of Ordinary Worker 25,000 Rubles
Putin has computers like the Federal Reserve has.
“We bankrupt Russia with the lower oil price while we expand sales into Europe.”
This winter: be Warm - be Comfortable - be Patriotic
72 degrees or more, to help fund the war
“Russia has been targeting hospitals, shopping centers, apartment complexes, and all kinds of civilian targets with bombs, missiles and drones.”
There are lots of legitimate targets in Ukraine.
Ukraine is probably the fourth largest arms producer in the world (after the US, Russia and China). In WW2, the US converted its factories for war production.
Ukraine has command centers, barracks, arms depots, etc.
He doesn't explain it. Just imagine the US having another President like Biden, who couldn't respond in a coherent way in time. Or imagine a president like Harris who would refuse to respond.
Russia Wins
Ukraine Loses
Ukraine signs a peace deal
Zelenskyy dies (or killed) and then Ukraine stops
President Trump gets them to finally quit
Ok, you demonstrate no idea of how a HARM, a HARD, or any sort of HARW works.
(Hint 1 - Camo is useless.)
(Hint 2 - Loitering HARM weapons are pretty much 100% effective unless you turn off your radar, or have much better AD than the Russians do. Or you can have more radars than the attacker has missiles. Good luck with that.)
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