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Broken altimeter, ignored warnings: Hearings reveal what went wrong in DC crash that killed 67
ap via msn ^ | 8/3/2025 | JOSH FUNK

Posted on 08/03/2025 8:34:15 AM PDT by logi_cal869

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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Re ‘route’: My memory is that this route is an escape route for ‘leadership’ under certain DHS circumstances, e.g., terror attack or otherwise, and they practice the route regularly (and seems to have been a regular trigger for ‘near misses’ if my recollection is correct).

Someone put her in the pilot seat in a substandard aircraft and a route which endangered civilian traffic.

“I WANT SOME BUTT!!!” (with rank and/or office)


61 posted on 08/03/2025 12:22:03 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: poinq
Why on earth would there be a training flight in the middle of an active landing area.

Exactly my point.

62 posted on 08/03/2025 12:24:11 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: catnipman

It was stupid to ignore human nature and assign a lower ranked instructor.A senior instructor would ORDER corrective actions or TAKE THE CONTROLS while a lower rank instructor only suggests politely fearing repercustions from a higher ranked officer.

The instructor might have saved his life and 66 more had he been assertive. True it might well have cost his military career but there are other ways to live.


63 posted on 08/03/2025 12:26:12 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: FtrPilot

Spot on IMHO


64 posted on 08/03/2025 12:26:54 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: blackdog

Altimeter check
bkmk


65 posted on 08/03/2025 12:49:33 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: logi_cal869

Because the Pentagon was running an air taxi service for VIP’s, 24/7/365.


66 posted on 08/03/2025 1:13:39 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) "Diggin the scene with a gangster lean" (Mayfield, Curtis) )
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To: blackdog

If it wasn’t for VIPs, Reagan National would have been shut down years ago, it’s not a safe location given the area it’s in.


67 posted on 08/03/2025 1:14:16 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
Agreed. I used to fly my plane in and out frequently. We had contracts in Crystal City. That was when it was just "National". A lot of trips into Norfolk Naval Air Station, too.

Then there was Inland Motors that would meet us at some little uncontrolled field as you would approach the rolling hills of North Virginia. Real creepy CIA kinda people needing some sort of part delivered in person. Early on guidance electronics for GPS guided ordinance stuff. Early 90's. I remember being on final at National when the news of Vince Foster was being chattered on Unicom radio.

68 posted on 08/03/2025 2:50:46 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) "Diggin the scene with a gangster lean" (Mayfield, Curtis) )
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To: logi_cal869

When flying at 200’ AGL one uses Radio Altimeter and Ground Prox.


69 posted on 08/03/2025 2:51:49 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people. )
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To: hanamizu

Most Army helo pilots are CWOs.

Odd, was just thinking about this incident today as I flew Southwest into BWI. I refuse to fly to DCA since this incident. I was also wondering who exactly from the US Army has been court martialed over this? Still waiting to hear. The US military drills “accountability” into their recruits’ heads but apparently the organization itself has zero. Army heads need to roll. Court martial proceedings should be televised. This was a massive F up by the Army and somehow the chain of command sees zero repercussions. Insane.


70 posted on 08/03/2025 6:55:08 PM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: logi_cal869

Of course the Altimeter was broken, the copter was destroyed. When I got in a car crash, the speedometer was broken, along with the clock and radio.


71 posted on 08/03/2025 7:27:42 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: DesertRhino

Exactly


72 posted on 08/03/2025 7:28:10 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: Wilderness Conservative

I wouldn’t even try to disuade you.


73 posted on 08/03/2025 7:30:47 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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