Former NATO commander: Sending Ukraine offensive weapons ‘could move Putin to the negotiating table’

The Hill ^ | 07/14/25 | Sarah Fortinsky

[jacknhoo]

The Hill may as well be Media Matters.

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Interesting:

THE US ADMIRAL IN THE GLOBALIST AXIS OF EVIL
Posted on January 22, 2025 by winter oak

by Paul Cudenec

James Stavridis, chairman of the Rockefeller Foundation’s board of trustees, projects a wholesome and all-American image for the organisation, with his impressive list of military decorations.

After a long and seemingly illustrious career, during which he became NATO Supreme Allied Commander Europe, he at one point appeared to be heading for the very top of US society.

His personal website boasts: “In 2016, he was vetted for Vice President by Secretary Hillary Clinton, and subsequently invited to Trump Tower to discuss a cabinet position with President Donald Trump”. [375]

More here https://winteroak.org.uk/2025/01/22/the-us-admiral-in-the-globalist-axis-of-evil/

[MotorCityBuck]

Never respond to the Insane in a rational manner.👍

[Nextrush]

In 1997 Bill Clinton with his cigar who knows where decided to expand NATO eastwards with Russia objecting.

Eventually in 2014 the pushing and prodding of Russia led to the coup in Ukraine overthrowing the Pro-Russian government there.

This led to civil war in Eastern Ukraine the US fueling Ukraine with weapons even when Trump was in during his first term.

By 2022 Putin got fed up and fought back provoked as hoped for in the first place.

This animus towards Russia in the aftermath of the Cold War is the pure and simple truth your comments exemplify it.

Putin went too far in 2022 but I can’t drink the Kool Aid demonizing Russia. They got pushed around its the real history of the last several decades.

[tlozo]

Eventually in 2014 the pushing and prodding of Russia led to the coup in Ukraine overthrowing the Pro-Russian government there.

Stop with the Russian propaganda. Ukraines Parliament voted to toss out a would be Putin-like dictator.

Ukraine President Yanukovich impeached 22 Feb 2014

Parliament votes to dismiss Viktor Yanukovich and sets early election for May 25, while jailed opposition leader freed.

Ukraine’s parliament has voted to remove President Viktor Yanukovich from office, hours after he abandoned his Kiev office to protesters and denounced what he described as a coup.

The impeachment, which was backed by 328 of the 447 deputies, argues that Yanukovich abused his powers.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/2/22/ukraine-president-yanukovich-impeached

[The Duke]

"Lunatics..."

Agreed. We're going to leave Putin with the perception that he has one single option. And it's not the option that any of us would want to deal with.

[WoofDog123]

i figure most of them are just punching a paycheck and may or may not believe what they post.

[tlozo]

By 2022 Putin got fed up and fought back

LOL, poor Putin had to "fought back" when NO ONE WAS ATTACKING RUSSIA.

Russia attacked Georgia seizing more territory.

Russia seized Crimea in 2014.

Russia started a separatist war in Ukraine in 2014.

Putin invaded ALL of Ukraine in 2022.

[Bulwyf]

US is broke, Canada is broke. Western Europe is broke. I hear Argentina is making gains.

[Kazan]

Only imbecile would think giving Ukraine long-range weapons would a good idea.

Russia could disable Ukraine's entire electric grid and flood Europe with refugees if that happened.

Or it could turn Ukraine into a mushroom cloud.

Russia is the side in the position of strength but morons like this are hellbent on starting WW III or a nuclear war.

[McCarthysGhost]

Since Russia has refused a negotiated peace that basically acquiesced to pretty much all of their demands, they will need to experience enough pain to stop. Letting this war continue in infinitum is a threat to our national security.

[dpetty121263]

Putin read Trump’s Art of the Deal book...he is in “Trump’s head”.

[dforest]

Uh huh, just like it did the last 3 years. We know more weapons and money for Zelensky for sure isn’t going to move him to the negotiating table. Because so far, Zelensky has made no effort to negotiate, nor has he made an effort to allow his citizens a vote.

[dforest]

Oh, I think Putin knew Trump well enough. I would bet he has read “Art of the Deal” and knows what is happening.

[CapandBall]

”I think that is what could move Putin to the negotiating table”

It won’t, but as long as the euroweenies are paying for it, IDGAF. Let these former Soviet States fight.

Bonus: it’s a big sandbox the US MIC can test out new wiz-bang gear on somebody else’s dime.

[backpacker_c]

well...

I should have checked you’re prior posting history

Then I would have realized you’re one of the zelensky/ukraine supporters and twisting things in favor of Trump escalating the fighting and attacking putin and russia directly

[MinorityRepublican]

Since Russia has refused a negotiated peace that basically acquiesced to pretty much all of their demands, they will need to experience enough pain to stop.

Secondary sanctions against China and India for buying Russian oil from their shadow fleet.

If Putin is unable to sell his oil, he won't be able to fund his war machine in Ukraine.

[BobL]

“kill putin, and z man if you like”

Neither one is the problem. With Putin at 80%, whoever replaces him will be no different or even more aggressive in Ukraine (ignore the Leftist claims that he’s the only bad guy in Russia - it’s standard practice by that bunch). Zelensky is controlled by the Azovs (Ukrainian Nazis), who are in-turn controlled by our Deep State, so whoever runs Ukraine will still have to answer to them.

[doc maverick]

“kill putin
and z man if you like”
They’re both about the same…..2 punk dictators.
It was a given that Putin would not end his war with summer arriving.
He’s got a war plan and areas that he wants back from Ukraine.
He probably wants to get it done before October.
Then he will end it on his terms….that’s probably how his brain works.

[jimwatx]

Yeah go ahead and keep playing and then don’t act surprised when Russia resorts to tactical nukes.

[BobL]

“It won’t, but as long as the euroweenies are paying for it, IDGAF. Let these former Soviet States fight.”

The problem is that we’re unable to substantially increase our weapons production, at least for the next several years, and we have VERY LOW STOCKPILES, so anything that Europe ‘buys’ simply comes out of what we could have used used for replenishment - so it would be far better to make up those stockpiles, rather than to be sitting ducks the next time we actually need to fight an enemy.